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SACKED AND I'M FUMING (Fired for smoking)
The Mirror ^ | 12/23/05 | Richard Smith

Posted on 12/23/2005 7:13:34 AM PST by Millee

SACKED smoker Sophie Blinman threatened to take her former employers to court yesterday, fuming: "I'm furious. Surely this is discrimination."

Stunned Sophie, 21, was given the boot 45 minutes after starting her new job even though she promised not to light up in office hours.

Her bosses declared: "It's positive discrimination and we're proud of it." Experts agreed the company was not breaking the law. But smokers' pressure group Forest said: "This is outrageous."

Sophie, who smokes five to 10 cigarettes a day, was delighted to land her £6-an-hour job as an administrator at Dataflow Communications.

She said: "I dressed smartly, arrived in good time and was about to be taken on a tour of the offices when I was asked if I smoked. When I said I did, I immediately sensed a problem.

"I explained I'd happily wait until my lunch break to smoke, and leave the premises to do so. But I was told the company didn't employ smokers and there was no longer a position for me.

"I can't believe a business is allowed to have a policy against employing smokers. I was never even asked at my interview if I smoked."

Threatening legal action, Sophie, of Shepton Mallet, Somerset, added: "This has left me angered and unemployed. I shall be seeking legal advice."

Dataflow, which employs 20 workers at its offices in Wells, advertises its non-smokers policy on its website.

Managing director Fran Edwards said: "All our employees have been recruited on this basis. We can't make an exception."

Information Services boss Ian Murray added: "We didn't ask Sophie at her interview if she was a smoker because we assumed the agency that sent her only asked non-smokers to apply."

Employment lawyer Frank Ryan said: "This is unusual, but it doesn't breach the law. Sophie won't qualify for unfair dismissal but she might challenge on the grounds of human rights."

Forest said: "Only smokers can be discriminated against without penalty."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: fired; libertarians; pufflist; smoking; smokingandfuming; wodlist; workplace
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To: Millee

I wonder if the company refuses to hire people who have promiscuous sex? Surely the health care costs of STDs, HIV, infertility, abortions, and unwanted pregnancies far outweigh the costs associated with smoking.

Most smokers don't run into trouble until they are at or past retirement age.


21 posted on 12/23/2005 7:26:11 AM PST by Gingersnap
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To: Registered
Or maybe she should've just lied.

As the rules/regulations keep piling up from the Behavior Police, and entire new class of liars is likely to be spawned.

22 posted on 12/23/2005 7:27:24 AM PST by daler
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To: Millee

Are they going to fire people who drink too much? Are overweight? Eat too much junk food? Race motorcycles on the weekend?


23 posted on 12/23/2005 7:27:50 AM PST by FlyVet
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To: Registered
Be careful, next overweight, then religious beliefs, than married. It is a slippery slope we are on.
24 posted on 12/23/2005 7:27:54 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: Millee

Now if she were a lesbian providing sex acts during office hours, she would be promoted.


25 posted on 12/23/2005 7:28:16 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Millee
SACKED smoker Sophie Blinman threatened to take her former employers to court yesterday, fuming: "I'm furious. Surely this is discrimination."

If you can fire smokers for their unhealthy behavior (which you should be able to do if you're paying their health benefits), why shouldn't you be able to fire people who engage in highly dangerous sexual behavior?

26 posted on 12/23/2005 7:28:34 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Millee
The socialist state has certain values, you see. One of them is health. Collectivist healthcare being what it is, the Reich can't afford to employ or treat those who don't contribute to the collective good.

So you're out of luck in Nazi Britian if you happen to smoke. Anal sex is groovy, however.

27 posted on 12/23/2005 7:28:39 AM PST by Reactionary (The Stalinist Media is the Enemy)
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To: ArrogantBustard; pogo101; MarineBrat; 6323cd

Moose bit my sister opportunity ping


28 posted on 12/23/2005 7:28:55 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (I might be wrong, but I'm always right.)
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To: Millee

I wonder if the moose smokes?


29 posted on 12/23/2005 7:29:40 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (I might be wrong, but I'm always right.)
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To: FlyVet

"Are they going to fire people who drink too much? Are overweight? Eat too much junk food? Race motorcycles on the weekend?"

Yes, this has all either happened or will happen in the Orwellian world that has arrived.

And those freepers defending this policy...you will be next....hmmmm....fired for being a republican....hey its the right of the business to do that...isn't it?


30 posted on 12/23/2005 7:30:49 AM PST by fizziwig
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To: Go Gordon
"Non-homosexual only hiring? Non-religeous people only hiring? Non-alcohol consuming people only? Non-fast food eating people only? Non-fat people only? Non-perfume/cologne using people only? My tag line probably applies to you."

Exactly, it's ridiculous. A have a prediction: companies in the future will give physicals to all prospective employees and those who don't "measure up" will not be hired. Employers want to avoid employees who could cost them money in health care costs.
31 posted on 12/23/2005 7:33:47 AM PST by khnyny (Merry Christmas)
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To: Millee

Sounds to me like they owe her a day's pay and they need to change the interview process, that's all.


32 posted on 12/23/2005 7:34:18 AM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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To: Millee

Hope she sues the company into bankruptsy.


33 posted on 12/23/2005 7:35:08 AM PST by mysterio
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To: Semper Paratus

What about a person with a history of STDs? All they have to do is claim to be gay?


34 posted on 12/23/2005 7:36:56 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Millee

Dirty bustards!


35 posted on 12/23/2005 7:38:08 AM PST by johnny7 (“Check out the big brain on Brett!”)
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To: Centurion2000
And how exactly would you react to being fired for being a Republican?

I'm not a Republican, but if I were and I were fired for it, I guess I'd have to find another job. YOU?

36 posted on 12/23/2005 7:38:16 AM PST by xrp (Conservative votes are to Republicans what 90% of black votes are to Democrats (taken for granted))
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To: VegasCowboy

Once upon a time, teachers were asked if they smoked or drank. If they did, they were not hired. If they were caught doing either, they were fired. Harsh, but those were terms of employment.


37 posted on 12/23/2005 7:38:32 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: fizziwig

Yes, it is Orwellian. Up is down, right is wrong, black is white.


38 posted on 12/23/2005 7:38:49 AM PST by khnyny (Merry Christmas)
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To: mysterio
Hope she sues the company into bankruptsy.

Well, nice to see that you don't believe in conservatism, rather you love big government.

39 posted on 12/23/2005 7:39:00 AM PST by xrp (Conservative votes are to Republicans what 90% of black votes are to Democrats (taken for granted))
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To: Millee
My understanding of labor law is that if she got through the interview process, and was hired for a full-time job, then any "condition of employment" would have to be in writing, and on the job application that she will have signed.

Employers have to tread lightly even when trying to rid themselves of potential drug problems through the hiring process. If you drug test for example, as a condition of employment, then you can fire someone for doing drugs, but you had better have a subsequent drug test to prove it. If you don't drug test, then you cannot require an employee to submit to one because it was not a "condition of employment".

I'm no lawyer, maybe someone who is could set this straight, but I think she has a case that the burden would be on the employer, as in almost every other instance it is, to make it clear that not being a smoker is a condition of employment.

40 posted on 12/23/2005 7:39:45 AM PST by wayoverontheright (You want to help the environment? Start fighting SOCIALISM instead of CAPITALISM!)
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