Well, according to this article, the right wing, as well as left wing, bloggers are furious at the NYT for withholding the spying story for over a year.
However, I am finding it a bit of stretch to believe a blogger actually thinks the NYT did that to "help" GW win the election in 2004 -- from above article:
In any case, Bunch charges that the Times likely had this shocking information before the November 2004 election, and if it had come out with it then it would have sunk Bush's chances for re-election.
1 posted on
12/20/2005 11:45:53 AM PST by
summer
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2 posted on
12/20/2005 11:46:38 AM PST by
summer
To: summer
It's all lies.
4 posted on
12/20/2005 11:50:47 AM PST by
b4its2late
(Liberals are good examples of why some animals eat their young.)
To: summer; All
Seems like the NYT forgot to mention this little story that was posted in their paper:
From NewsBusters"
Posted by Mithridate Ombud on December 20, 2005 - 13:32.
Dear journalists of the New York Times,
Perhaps you'd like to take a few moments to gather yourselves and figure out which of your stories are correct and which stories are politically motivated fabrications.
COURT SAYS U.S. SPY AGENCY CAN TAP OVERSEAS MESSAGESBy DAVID BURNHAM, SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMES (NYT) 1051 words Published: November 7, 1982
A Federal appeals court has ruled that the National Security Agency may lawfully intercept messages between United States citizens and people overseas, even if there is no cause to believe the Americans are foreign agents, and then provide summaries of these messages to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
Because the National Security Agency is among the largest and most secretive intelligence agencies and because millions of electronic messages enter and leave the United States each day, lawyers familiar with the intelligence agency consider the decision to mark a significant increase in the legal authority of the Government to keep track of its citizens.
Reverses 1979 Ruling
The Oct. 21 decision of the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit involves the Government's surveillance of a Michiganborn lawyer, Abdeen Jabara, who for many years has represented Arab-American citizens and alien residents in court. Some of his clients had been investigated by the F.B.I.
Mr. Jabara sued the F.B.I, and the National Security Agency, and in 1979 Federal District Judge Ralph M. Freeman ruled that the agency's acquisition of several of Mr. Jabara's overseas messages violated his Fourth Amendment right to be free of ''unreasonable searches and seizures.'' Last month's decision reverses that ruling.
In earlier court proceedings, the F.B.I. acknowledged that it then disseminated the information to 17 other law-enforcement or intelligence agencies and three foreign governments.
The opinion of the three-judge panel of the Court of Appeals held, ''The simple fact remains that the N.S.A. lawfully acquired Jabara's messages.''
The court ruled further that the lawyer's Fourth Amendment rights ''were not violated when summaries of his overseas telegraphic messages'' were furnished to the investigative bureau ''irrespective of whether there was reasonable cause to believe that he was a foreign agent.''
5 posted on
12/20/2005 11:51:27 AM PST by
areafiftyone
(Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
To: summer
Keller still doesn't mention Risen's forthcoming book, which is obviously one of the chief reasons, if not the only reason, why they decided to publish the story now.
Sleazy conflict of interest, as well as treason.
6 posted on
12/20/2005 11:51:40 AM PST by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: summer
(it became clear those questions loomed larger within the government than we had previously understood.)
From the beginning of this article it shows that the Times was fully aware that this information if published compromised our National Security. The above quote shows that they finally decided to publish it because someone inside the government (a liberal) told them to do it anyway.
New York Times are scumbags. If they think they will deflect the public outcry for publishing this by publishing selective criticisms as to why they didn't publish it immediately, they truly then have no clue how pissed Americans are at their treasonous behavior.
To: summer
Clearly a secret policy reversal that gives an American intelligence agency discretion to monitor communications within the country is a matter of public interest. Lie.
8 posted on
12/20/2005 11:53:04 AM PST by
atomicpossum
(Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
To: summer
"In any case, Bunch charges that the Times likely had this shocking information before the November 2004 election, and if it had come out with it then it would have sunk Bush's chances for re-election."
I believe the opposite wa strue. The Times did not release this before the election because it would make the libs out to be anti American wussies and it would sink Kerry with his anti war rhetoric.
How convenient that it also comes out the week of a Times reporters book deal.
11 posted on
12/20/2005 11:58:40 AM PST by
EQAndyBuzz
(Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
To: summer
If you remember, right before the election, the NY Times and CBS News ran the bogus Missing Weapons from Iraq Depots story.
To: summer
I've been writing a number of NY Slimes advertisers and have advised them that I don't like them advertising in such a bias media source and for that reason I will no longer purchase their products. I have also advised them that I will post my opinion and actions on a very, very large website with like-minded persons.
15 posted on
12/20/2005 12:06:11 PM PST by
Wasanother
(Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
To: summer
This is just a red herring to distract from the late filing of the story and the fact that there was no "policy reversal", none at all. Rush pointed out a court decision on this subject, reported in the NYT, from 1982.
16 posted on
12/20/2005 12:06:20 PM PST by
Eva
To: summer
In any case, Bunch charges that the Times likely had this shocking information before the November 2004 election, and if it had come out with it then it would have sunk Bush's chances for re-election.More likely, it would have produced a GOP landslide.
The number of people who think the President should not chase down spies and terrorists approximates the number who want to go see a movie about two gay shepherds pretending to be cowboys...
17 posted on
12/20/2005 12:06:22 PM PST by
Jim Noble
(Non, je ne regrette rien)
To: summer
The NYT and Democrats leaking and playing politics with ALL of our lives.
18 posted on
12/20/2005 12:06:56 PM PST by
Echo Talon
(http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
To: summer
When it comes to this level of classified information, The NYT is in way over their heads. There is no way they can place any piece of classified information into proper context, because the context is also classified. Honest people who know the truth can't divulge it - that leaves only scoundrels to supply bits and pieces of information.
According to the latest WSJ article, this whole thing was approved by the FISA court and has legal precendent. But those details would be classified too, as it would involve specifics of how the monitoring is done.
I could care less if they sat on the story for a day, a week, or a year. How long doesn't matter. There are only two choices - run the story, or don't. They ran it.
19 posted on
12/20/2005 12:09:53 PM PST by
Toskrin
(It didn't seem nostalgic when I was doing it)
To: summer
More obfuscation and omission. This time by the NYT
Executive Editor, Bill Keller.
Just as Friday's NYT article did, Keller evades The Point: The President has legal authority to use wiretaps without a warrant. And President Bush abided the legal requirements to brief an congressional oversight committee. Plus, President Bush was not the first President to use this legal surveillance..
In short, it was and is, a non story Albeit the with the approval of NYT executive editor Bill Keller, a fabricated a story. For it clearly wasn't a reporting of facts.
26 posted on
12/20/2005 12:30:20 PM PST by
Zon
(Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
To: summer
30 posted on
12/20/2005 12:42:38 PM PST by
pabianice
(I guess)
To: summer
The thing driving the hysteria is the prospect of drying up foreign moneys coming into this country to fund lib activities.
The foreign terrorist organizations and individuals funding propaganda and internal cells are identified. Its the enemy within that is unidentified.
33 posted on
12/20/2005 12:47:00 PM PST by
TUX
To: summer
However, I am finding it a bit of stretch to believe a blogger actually thinks the NYT did that to "help" GW win the election in 2004
I've gone over and looked at the "other side" a few times. There are many of them who actually believe the press is run by the conservatives.
Shocking but true.
35 posted on
12/20/2005 12:53:27 PM PST by
festus
(The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
To: summer
It's quite simple: Once people know the facts of this operation, they aren't the least bit concerned and it makes the president look good. The only way this story works is if it is a blindside.
To: summer
E&P is considered "leftist". I wonder why they have to tout Bunch's "Attytood"?
My off-the-top-of-my-head guess is that the LSM was already reeling from Blather/Mapes-gate, Osama had just said he
could work with John Kerry, and to reveal that Bush actually took steps to protect American lives would have reminded
those that still value their own lives, their families' lives, and America's future, that a Democrat president wouldn't.
To: summer
Question for Mr. Bunch: Who leaked sensitive info. during the last election with the intent of influencing that election?
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