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To: Natural Law
Correct. And the Great Wall as we know it was an invention of the 14th century. Hadrian's Wall was built in the 2nd century.

the Qin wall was built in 200 BC, but it was only a few dozen miles long and not continuous.

12 posted on 12/20/2005 10:27:31 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
Correct. And the Great Wall as we know it was an invention of the 14th century. Hadrian's Wall was built in the 2nd century.

So it makes you wonder why, after a lull, the Chinese government is once again touting Chinese superiority; esp. using something so easily disproved as this.

Could a cloud have appeared in the enamel blue sky of the Middle Kingdom?

15 posted on 12/20/2005 10:46:39 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: wideawake
The Great Wall we see today was built during the Ming dynasty. However, there were several other Great Walls built in the previous dynasties. Remnants of them still exist, but only in bits and pieces.

If the Hungarian guy was talking about the similarities between the Lime and the Great Wall, he must be referring to the earlier versions of the Great Wall.
20 posted on 12/20/2005 11:29:08 AM PST by Fishing-guy
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To: wideawake

I would submit that the Chinese actually learned from the Romans. Roman soldiers who disappeared after a famous defeat founded a city in eastern China, archaeologists say .

The phantom legion was part of the defeated forces of Marcus Licinius Crassus, according to the current edition of the Italian magazine Archeologia Viva .

The famously wealthy Crassus needed glory to rival the exploits of the two men with whom he ruled Rome as the First Triumvirate, Pompey the Great and Julius Caesar .

Crassus decided to bring down the Parthian Empire - a fatal choice .

His forces were routed in 53 BC outside the Mesopotamian city of Carre - today's Harran - and he was beheaded .

According to the Roman historian Pliny, the Romans who survived were taken to a prison camp in what is now northern Afghanistan .

When Rome and Parthia sued for peace in 20 BC - 33 years after Crassus's last battle - all trace of the prisoners had disappeared .

The survivors of Crassus's legion became a mystery, walking ghosts in Roman legends. A Chinese historian in the Han Empire, China's second dynasty, provided an answer to the riddle in the early 3rd century AD .

The historian, Bau Gau, wrote that a Chinese war leader defeated a group of soldiers drawn up in typical Roman formation .

Crassus's old troops must now have been in their fifties and sixties .

Bau Gau said the foreigners were moved to China to defend the strategically important eastern region of Gansu, near today's city of Yongchang .

This is where the survivors founded the city of Liquian, the only site in China where the mark of Ancient Rome can be seen. 'Liquian' is said to mean 'Roman' .

The city has been virtually unknown outside China although hundreds of people visit it each year, admiring traces of defensive wallworks and pieces of broken pottery .


23 posted on 12/20/2005 11:32:34 AM PST by Natural Law
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