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Oppenheimer: GOP may be saying 'adios' to Hispanic voters(Open-Borders Rant)
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | December 19, 2005 | Andres Oppenheimer

Posted on 12/20/2005 8:38:10 AM PST by SC33

President Bush's Republican Party's love affair with Hispanic voters may soon come to an end: Judging from the xenophobic measures proposed by conservative Republicans in Congress last week, many Latino voters will think twice before casting a vote for Republicans in the 2006 congressional elections.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; 2008; aliens; amnesty; borders; bush; gohomestayhome; gop; guestworker; hispanic; immigrantlist; immigration; latino; presidentbush; republican
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1 posted on 12/20/2005 8:38:11 AM PST by SC33
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To: SC33

Most Hispanic voters want their kindred to get here the same way they did...legally.


2 posted on 12/20/2005 8:40:06 AM PST by Kenny Bunkport
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To: SC33

Por favor, Andres.

Xenophobic? Uh, no. Intelligent. I've said it before and I'll say it again:

We are a sovereign nation in a time of war. What makes you think we do not have the right, much less the responsibility, to enforce our borders?


3 posted on 12/20/2005 8:40:49 AM PST by Choose Ye This Day (Win the war. Confirm the judges. Cut the taxes. Control the spending. Secure the border.)
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To: SC33
Xenophobia: lacking sufficient public zeal in your xenophillia.
4 posted on 12/20/2005 8:41:01 AM PST by KarlInOhio (What is the most obscene gesture to a Democrat? An Iraqi voter showing him a stained finger.)
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To: SC33

Most U.S. hispanic citizens also want the borders controlled. Therefore all we have to do is close the borders and make sure non-citizens aren't allowed to vote.
Simple.


5 posted on 12/20/2005 8:42:04 AM PST by Mogollon
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To: SC33

Xenophon was a great leader and a brilliant man.

I'll stick with him.


6 posted on 12/20/2005 8:42:11 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Telling the truth in a time of lies is a revolutionary act.)
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To: SC33
If the Party had been making a major noise and working its heart out to keep the borders secure lo those many years ago, "Hispanic" voters wouldn't be a problem now.
7 posted on 12/20/2005 8:45:33 AM PST by America's Resolve (I've become a 'single issue voter' for 06 and 08. My issue is illegal immigration!)
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To: SC33

Uh-huh.

I'd wager I know, work with and serve more Hispanics than this guy and he doesn't have a clue.

There is no firm consensus on the issue among Hispanics. Actually, in my experience U.S. citizens that consider themselves such, or that came here through legal means, want enforcement. Those that consider mexico still their home, or are illegal, tend to be against enforcement. Shocking, I know. ;-)

It may tip a little more in favor of open borders, but not by a lopsided margin of 90-10. Maybe closer to 60-40 in favor of open borders, and that may be too generous in favor of open borders. Since the GOP got in the 40% of support for elections, I don't foresee real loss.


8 posted on 12/20/2005 8:46:16 AM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


9 posted on 12/20/2005 8:47:20 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: America's Resolve; All

Securing the borders, besides being the right move for the cnation, could also be politically fruitful if framed the right way. Look at it this way:

1.) Reducing illegal immigration would halt the depression of wages in many blue collar jobs, boosting the middle class.
2.) Illegal immigrants generally take jobs that lower income people would take, which disproportionately affects African Americans, Legal hispanics, and tenagers.
3.) This is also an environmental issue. If environmental groups are truly sincere in their goals, then a population explosion is the last thing they should want.


10 posted on 12/20/2005 8:49:52 AM PST by SC33
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To: SC33

Protection of the borders is not Xenophopic.

A Land without borders is NOT A NATION!!!!!!


11 posted on 12/20/2005 8:50:05 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" R. A. Heinlein)
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To: SC33

I think there is something to the point, because despite what we often hear, I don't believe that Hispanic voters want to stop illegal immigration. Every time someone does something to curtail it, they go bananas.


12 posted on 12/20/2005 8:51:43 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: SC33
Judging from the xenophobic measures proposed by conservative Republicans in Congress last week, many Latino voters will think twice before casting a vote for Republicans in the 2006 congressional elections.

 For these truth twisters America is xenophobic when it demands legal immigration only. As it is, Mexico hogs the legal immigration slots and sends us the most. Our legal immigration policy is insanely tilted toward illiterate, non English speaking Hispanics and the 3rd worlders in complete disrespect of the Europeans who settled, planned and built America. With help from Indians and Blacks too.
Millions of educated English speaking Europeans would love to immigrate here

Hispanics are a footnote in American history. They were busy with their Spanish colonies most of which are complete messes today

13 posted on 12/20/2005 8:53:57 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: SC33
I am a Hispanic Republican voter. My mother was born in Cuba (pre-Castro) and later attended the 1964 Republican Convention as a delegate for Goldwater. I grew up steeped in Republican and particularly conservative values.

The idea that Hispanics are a monolithic voting blocks is ridiculous. Many legal Hispanics are vehemently opposed to illegal immigration or anything that smells like amnesty. It is very likely that there is a huge overlap between this type of Hispanic and the Hispanics that are already voting Republican. The Hispanics that favor weak borders, amnesty for illegals and more socialism are likely to already be voting for Democrats.

If the Republicans want to see this Hispanic abandon the Republican Party they can just go ahead and pass a guest worker shamnesty. If that happens, I can think of two Republican Senators I will actively be working to defeat. And while I will continue to remain registered Republican so that I can return postage free RNC envelopes stuffed with RINO pesos and nasty notes, and so that I can vote for Tancredo in the primaries, the GOP can forget about me in the general election because I'll be voting for the Conservative Party.

14 posted on 12/20/2005 8:54:57 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: SC33; HiJinx; gubamyster
Patriotic Americans of every ethnic background understand the need to secure our borders.


U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.


15 posted on 12/20/2005 8:55:19 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Brilliant; All

I think it might just be the so called civil rights groups such as La Raza who create a frenzy. I'm not sure that the average, legal Mexican in the US is pro illegal immigration.


16 posted on 12/20/2005 8:55:36 AM PST by SC33
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To: SC33

You know I don't really give a rat's behind what hispanic voters want, after all they are still a minority (if we close the borders now).


17 posted on 12/20/2005 8:55:36 AM PST by sheana
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To: SC33

So securing our borders and enforcing our laws is now xenophobic? How utterly inflamatory and ridiculous!! God forgive me but I am truly starting to HATE liberals with a passion. I used to feel sorry for them and pity them for their stupidity but I am really beginning to hate them for it...


18 posted on 12/20/2005 8:56:09 AM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: jackbenimble

I agree 100%.


19 posted on 12/20/2005 8:56:45 AM PST by SC33
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To: jackbenimble

Don't know much about it, but you might be interested in this.

http://www.latinoamericans.org


20 posted on 12/20/2005 8:59:34 AM PST by SC33
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