Posted on 12/17/2005 3:58:48 AM PST by PatrickHenry
1300?
Thunderous applause + loud cheering!
It was because of that incident, that another poster on that site led me to the link to the Jack Chick site...and there is where I learned about what Jack Chick believed...had I known that beforehand, I dont think I would have engaged him in any discussion...I would have just ignored his remarks...but since I had no idea who he was, I just plowed ahead, and wound up in a really heated conversation with him....
Thank you, thank you...
...such as?
And to save us all a lot of time, don't bother posting any of this old creationist crap, we've seen it before (*thousands* of times), and already know why it's bogus.
When you have science making conclusions on something without truly observing THE ACT then it's not true science in the first place...
Wow, just how ignorant are you? "True science" involves a huge amount of "making conclusions on something without truly observing THE ACT". Watch any of the CSI shows on TV if you're unclear on this elementary concept. Reconstructing events and processes that people *weren't* there to witness (or are unable to, because they occurred on too small/large a scale, or too fast/slow for human perception, etc.) is one of the primary functions of "true science".
Science rests on *observations*, yes, but not the kind *you* simplistically presume it means. Observing *results* of a process (or "AN ACT" as you put it) is a perfectly valid way of learning about it too. The creationist notion that the only thing that counts is "being there to see it happen" is epistemology on the level of a four-year-old.
Quite nice, but not needed. The Grand Master thanks you for your excellent work.
On behalf of the Grand Master, I am,
PatrickHenry
I see that I joined FR on 6-21-01...4 1/2 yrs ago...so it was around that time, Jack Chick and I had our heated exchange...poor Jack Chick, little does he realize the favor he did me, indirectly leading me to FR...
Nice sentiment for post #1300.
I think Jack Chick's head would explode if I got into a discussion with him. One of would get banned, regardless of the website.
Thanks and as I have said before, you are a true gentleman(and I am sure you are a true gentleman, even when the moderators are not watching)
I truly appreciate your posting a NOVEL, however it doesn't change the construct that TOE is only speculation.
The astute reader is invited to reread my original comment above. Was I right, or was I right?
You keep showing me little bits of evidence,
Actually, I show you massive volumes of evidence, which you continue to totally ignore with stupid dismissals like:
but never the actual event, so therefore, speculation.
Okay, I'll bite -- what, exactly, is "speculation" about the pattern of endogenous retroviruses? What about it has not actually been established by multiple lines of evidence beyond reasonable doubt? Be specific.
I know you scientist can't stand being told you're not only wrong, but being lied too and deceived,
Yes, we don't appreciate you telling falsehoods like that, then running away from invitations to actually support your empty accusations. We don't suffer fools gladly.
is hard to take, but if you'd get your head out of your asses long enough to take a look at reality then maybe you'd get a clue...
The evidence we show you *is* reality. It was acquired by carefully examining reality and then recording what is found there. *You're* the one who keeps giving airy hand-waving dismissals on why you don't even need to *glance* at that reality, much less deal with it.
Do you have *any* idea how self-deluded you sound?
until then, keep playing with your little conjectures by calling them facts, and I'll keep informing people about the lie that's being perpetrated on society.
Yes, you'll keep repeating your slanderous accusation without a shred of justification or support. We get it.
Darwin's demented nightmare was the principal cause of all totalitarian murderous ideologies that have hit us in the last 150 years.
Your love affair with this notorious nut Darwin is well documented and will be noted in all future postings.
"Darwin's demented nightmare was the principal cause of all totalitarian murderous ideologies that have hit us in the last 150 years."
You are a moron. :)
"Your love affair with this notorious nut Darwin is well documented and will be noted in all future postings. "
I await your future ranting. :)
I am sure that if Jack Chick ever did engage in a debate with the more knowledgeable evos on FR, he would disintegrate...
And let me add to my previous post about Darwin and his demented descendants on this thread:
Totalitarianism grew out the 19th and early 20th centuries. Given.
Marx, Darwin and Freud shaped the image of the individual controlled by economic, physical or psychic forces beyond the individual's control. Given.
In such systems, individual freedom is meaningless.
So much for this creepy man who communed with lizards.
I was about to write a point-by-point response to your post, but now I see that Thatcherite has already done an excellent job of it. I concur with all of his points, including the ones where he informed you that the "method" you list is a valid response to a bogus creationist post, as well as the ones where he expressed doubt that you could actually document "FR scientists" doing what you accuse them of doing, with any kind of regularity.
So I'd like to heartily second Thatcherite's challenge that you back up your accusations with examples. Go for it, bucko.
If you can't -- or make lame excuses about why you won't -- then we'll just add you to the VERY long list of Freeper creationists who can't back up the stuff that spews out of their mouths.
I knew you'd come crawling back...and you did!
Bears repeating (regardless what one thinks of the "theory" itself.) Yes, the trio of 19th century authors of 20th century horrors: Karl. Sigmund and Charles. The first two have been totally discredited. Next...
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