Posted on 12/16/2005 10:02:11 AM PST by West Coast Conservative
Yep and it will pay dividends if handled correctly....
http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2005/12/house-approves-extension-of-patriot.html
The real test of a law is "Do you want your opponents enforcing it?" Can you imagine what this country would be like if President Hillary had the power to order the FBI to make warrantless searches on whoever she wanted?
Remember the good old days when going into the library was reserved for Democrats to check up on Clarence Thomas?
Nope, no link ... and no clue .. not many can measure up to the gillman's purity test.
That's a pretty bald faced lie even for a politician.
Makes for a great sound bite though. Without the Patriot Act, terrorists have become fully enabled. It is impossible to stop them from acting! Law enforcemnt will overnight be rendered powerless!
One of the Sections which will not be renewed was the Section that took down Gorelick's wall.
Gorelick's wall is now back up.
Good post over there.....
good point, this constant argument about "what if Hillary becomes president" is a non-starter. did laws against having FBI files, or using the IRS, stop them before?
Despite the fact that I wholeheartedly disagree with Sununu on this subject, your insinuation is beyond ignorant and moving quickly toward racist (and that is not a word I throw around lightly). I know John Sununu personally and he is one of the finest human beings I have ever encountered. His character is such, that I am shocked that he made the decision to enter politics.
Secondly, my godfather is also a Lebanese Christian and I take personal offense to your obnoxious implication that someone's ethnicity makes them less of a Patriot than you, just because you disagree with their opinion. It's ignorant fools like you that make it easy for libs to label the rest of us conservatives as small-minded racists.
Grow up!
Have you noticed the celebrating by the people in the middle east when we are attacked. Have you noticed that there are many Lebanese who are on the side of the Syrians.
Have you noticed that the arab world hates our guts.
When we are afraid to find the truth by any means necessary because someone's privacy might be breached I ask you what privacy do the 3,000 dead Americans have.
Were you among those who supported Congerssman Weldon for exposing the truth about what was discovered in Able Danger?
People who want the truth to be hidden are willing to sacrifice our lives for some lofty ideal.
If my a "return to pre-9/11 mindset" he means the mindset of a free, liberty loving country that is wary of a powerful federal government, I agree and applaud.
Somehow I doubt that's what he meant however.
OK, you are obviously off your meds or just an out and out racist. Now I AM deliberately using that word. I never realized that a US Senator, who was born in the US, whose father and mother were born in the US, who happens to have ancestors who came from Lebanon was one of those Ay-rabs who wanted us dead. I also never realized that my godfather, who was born in this country and served in the Air Force during the Korean War was one of those Ay-rabs who wanted us dead either.
So, tell me, is it hard to see the key pad with your white sheet over your head?
Seems NYC needs to be hit again to make a point.
I put my trust in 1994, not 1984.
Also, you ignorant fool, both Sununu and my godfather are Maronites, which is a Christian sect associated with the Catholic Church and who were instrumental in fighting for Christianity during the Crusades. Learn some history before you make a bigger fool out yourself than you already have, though that would be pretty hard to do.
Just a thought but do you think that there has been a modern president (other than Carter and he doensn't count) that hasn't had black bag ops doing warrantless searches on whoever they wanted, law or no law?
I don't think I'm a black helicopter type and I don't have any facts to back me up but my gut tells me that this has been going on since Truman to one extent or another, either through the FBI or the NSA.
I'm wasting my time, you won't read a word,but here's some.
Start with Phyllis Schlafly's summary.
http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2005/july05/05-07-13.html
The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) has just let the cat out of the bag about what's really behind our trade agreements and security partnerships with the other North American countries. A 59-page CFR document spells out a five-year plan for the "establishment by 2010 of a North American economic and security community" with a common "outer security perimeter."
"Community" means integrating the United States with the corruption, socialism, poverty and population of Mexico and Canada. "Common perimeter" means wide-open U.S. borders between the U.S., Mexico and Canada.
"Community" is sometimes called "space" but the CFR goal is clear: "a common economic space ... for all people in the region, a space in which trade, capital, and people flow freely." The CFR's "integrated" strategy calls for "a more open border for the movement of goods and people."
The CFR document lays "the groundwork for the freer flow of people within North America." The "common security perimeter" will require us to "harmonize visa and asylum regulations" with Mexico and Canada, "harmonize entry screening," and "fully share data about the exit and entry of foreign nationals."
This CFR document, called "Building a North American Community," asserts that George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin "committed their governments" to this goal when they met at Bush's ranch and at Waco, Texas on March 23, 2005. The three adopted the "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" and assigned "working groups" to fill in the details.
It was at this same meeting, grandly called the North American summit, that President Bush pinned the epithet "vigilantes" on the volunteers guarding our border in Arizona.
A follow-up meeting was held in Ottawa on June 27, where the U.S. representative, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, told a news conference that "we want to facilitate the flow of traffic across our borders." The White House issued a statement that the Ottawa report "represents an important first step in achieving the goals of the Security and Prosperity Partnership."
The CFR document calls for creating a "North American preference" so that employers can recruit low-paid workers from anywhere in North America. No longer will illegal aliens have to be smuggled across the border; employers can openly recruit foreigners willing to work for a fraction of U.S. wages.
Just to make sure that bringing cheap labor from Mexico is an essential part of the plan, the CFR document calls for "a seamless North American market" and for "the extension of full labor mobility to Mexico."
The document's frequent references to "security" are just a cover for the real objectives. The document's "security cooperation" includes the registration of ballistics and explosives, while Canada specifically refused to cooperate with our Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI).
To no one's surprise, the CFR plan calls for massive U.S. foreign aid to the other countries. The burden on the U.S. taxpayers will include so-called "multilateral development" from the World Bank and the Inter-American Development Bank, "long-term loans in pesos," and a North American Investment Fund to send U.S. private capital to Mexico.
The experience of the European Union and the World Trade Organization makes it clear that a common market requires a court system, so the CFR document calls for "a permanent tribunal for North American dispute resolution." Get ready for decisions from non-American judges who make up their rules ad hoc and probably hate the United States anyway.
The CFR document calls for allowing Mexican trucks "unlimited access" to the United States, including the hauling of local loads between U.S. cities. The CFR document calls for adopting a "tested once" principle for pharmaceuticals, by which a product tested in Mexico will automatically be considered to have met U.S. standards.
The CFR document demands that we implement "the Social Security Totalization Agreement negotiated between the United States and Mexico." That's code language for putting illegal aliens into the U.S. Social Security system, which is bound to bankrupt the system.
Here's another handout included in the plan. U.S. taxpayers are supposed to create a major fund to finance 60,000 Mexican students to study in U.S. colleges.
To ensure that the U.S. government carries out this plan so that it is "achievable" within five years, the CFR calls for supervision by a North American Advisory Council of "eminent persons from outside government . . . along the lines of the Bilderberg" conferences.
The best known Americans who participated in the CFR Task Force that wrote this document are former Massachusetts Governor William Weld and Bill Clinton's immigration chief Doris Meissner. Another participant, American University Professor Robert Pastor, presented the CFR plan at a friendly hearing of Senator Richard Lugar's Foreign Relations Committee on June 9.
Here's Cornyn's Shamnesty Bill
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/?&Db=d108&querybd=@FIELD(FLD003+@4((@1(Sen+Cornyn++John))+01692))
10. S.1387 : A bill to amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to authorize the establishment of guest worker programs, to provide for the adjustment of status of certain aliens unlawfully present in the United States to the status of a non-immigrant guest worker, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Cornyn, John [TX] (introduced 7/10/2003) Cosponsors (1)
Committees: Senate Judiciary
Same link, down the page is Cornyn's bill to make you pay for all of Mexico.
27. S.2941 : A bill to authorize the President to negotiate the creation of a North American Investment Fund to promote economic and infrastructure integration among Canada, Mexico, and the United States, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Cornyn, John [TX] (introduced 10/7/2004) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: Senate Foreign Relations
Senate Bill 2941.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:S.2941:
Highlights:
SEC. 3. PURPOSES.
The purposes of the Fund shall be--
(1) to promote economic and infrastructure integration among Canada, Mexico, and the United States;
(2) to promote education and economic development in Mexico; and
(3) to reduce the wealth gap between Mexico and Canada, and between Mexico and the United States. (Reduce the wealth gap, how socialist)
More:
SEC. 4. PROJECTS FUNDED.
(a) IN GENERAL- The Fund shall make grants for projects to carry out the purposes described in section 3, including projects--
(1) to construct roads in Mexico to facilitate trade between Mexico and Canada, and Mexico and the United States;
(2) to develop and implement post-secondary education programs in Mexico;
(3) to install telecommunications technologies throughout Mexico; and
(4) to construct other infrastructure that will carry out such purposes.
More:
SEC. 5. CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE FUND.
(a) IN GENERAL- The terms of the agreement establishing the Fund shall, subject to the limitation in subsection (b), require the Governments of Canada, Mexico, and the United States to contribute to the Fund.
Look up Robert Pastor to see the kind of company your heroes keep.
http://www.cfr.org/publication/8173/north_american_community_approach_to_security.html
Here's the main page.
http://www.cfr.org/publication.html?id=8138
Bon apetite.
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