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US Jews feel threatened by religious right
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| 12/15/05
| Michael Conlon
Posted on 12/15/2005 6:57:56 PM PST by freedom44
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To: freedom44
Abe Foxman was completely correct in his dire warnings that The Passion of the Christ would create violence against Jews and we would witness a new rise of anti-semitism in the U.S. Therefore, I trust his dire warnings yet again.
To: freedom44
Foxman is delusional.
If you wanted to guess which of two individuals were more warmly disposed towards Jews and Israel, and the only thing you knew about these two people was that one was an evangelical Christian, and the other was a member of an "establishment" denomination (eg, Episcopalian, Presbyterian) is there any doubt who it would be?
Yes, I understand that I am making a generalization, and that there are anti-semitic evangelicals and philo-semitic Presbyterians, but Foxman is really barking up the wrong tree.
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posted on
12/16/2005 11:29:31 AM PST
by
white trash redneck
(Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
To: Marine_Uncle
Sadly, we Canadians dont have a written constitution. The Bill of Rights is actually a section of the Constitution, correct?
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posted on
12/16/2005 2:41:03 PM PST
by
Sam Gamgee
(May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Are you serious? You really think the Passion has anything to do with new anti-semitism? It is not as though telling the story of Christs death is something new.
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posted on
12/16/2005 2:43:01 PM PST
by
Sam Gamgee
(May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
To: BenLurkin
Jews needn't feel threatened by Republicans and Conservatives; they should rightly be deathly afraid of their long standing moral(?), ethical(?) and monetary support to liberalism and the Democratic Party, however.
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posted on
12/16/2005 2:43:44 PM PST
by
Gaffer
To: Sam Gamgee
Yes, there were hundreds of synagogues burned in the U.S., thousands of Hassidic Jews rounded up and shot in Central Park, sermons on TV about how those Christ killers should have been exterminated in the 40's, and a complete collapse of support for Israel from the American Evangelical movement. All of Abe Foxman's predictions came through at the opening of the movie, so I have no doubt his predictions will come through now.
To: Sam Gamgee
"Sadly, we Canadians dont have a written constitution. The Bill of Rights is actually a section of the Constitution, correct? " YES. Ten where ratified from an original 12. If you would want a quick glance, you may want to go to this site;
http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/facts/funddocs/billeng.htm
The reason I included them as a seperate entity is they define a citizen's rights in relation to the over all constitution. In essense they are simply a part of our constitution. Think of them as "add-ons" to what the original constitution contained.
Intereseting. I had no idea you folks did not have a constitution along similiar lines as ours.
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posted on
12/16/2005 4:07:35 PM PST
by
Marine_Uncle
(Honor must be earned)
To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
I got you. Tongue in cheek. :) You can't always be sure in print.
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posted on
12/16/2005 4:11:46 PM PST
by
Sam Gamgee
(May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
To: Marine_Uncle
No, we inherited our Parliamentary system from Britain, which I learned recently does not have a written constitution either. In fact the Magna Carta is the only foundation they have for the freedoms that evolved after its creation. It is still actually used as a reference in law. Since our prime minister has broader powers than a US president we are at the mercy of the cabinet for any future decisions that may come at the expense of the minority. Granted we have a Supreme Court that does step in from time to time to frustrate the plans of the Parliament. We also have a Charter of Rights, but that is relatively new.
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posted on
12/16/2005 4:17:58 PM PST
by
Sam Gamgee
(May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
To: Sam Gamgee
Thanks for your explanation. Interesting. I understood your borrowing the English parlimentary process but just assumed all our western nations had a written constitution. Great. I learned something new today.
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posted on
12/16/2005 4:32:00 PM PST
by
Marine_Uncle
(Honor must be earned)
To: Marine_Uncle
Your welcome. That's why I am a recent convert to republicanism. Other democracies are not equal essentially because they simply result in mob rule. Sufficient constitutional protections from the government do not exist.
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posted on
12/16/2005 4:36:26 PM PST
by
Sam Gamgee
(May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
To: Sam Gamgee
"Sufficient constitutional protections from the government do not exist."
And that perhaps is why so many have migrated here over the years. It was not only for seeking prosperity but to gain under the law rights not to be found elsewhere regarding personal rights of an individual.
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posted on
12/16/2005 4:58:18 PM PST
by
Marine_Uncle
(Honor must be earned)
To: Marine_Uncle
I believe so. In that sense, the people of the 1800s were far more intelligent than us today. They had a better understanding of these sort of matters. Today, even Americans such as my wife, don't have a clue how the US system is different from other Western nations.
It seems Americans who want a popular vote, don't understand that it was the founders' intentions that each state choose the President.
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posted on
12/16/2005 5:01:22 PM PST
by
Sam Gamgee
(May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
To: Sam Gamgee
"It seems Americans who want a popular vote, don't understand that it was the founders' intentions that each state choose the President."
To many Americans do not remember what they learned in school or where not introduced to American history/politics to begin with. And your example is a good example of that proof. If you ask Americans what the Electorial College is, many will probably stare at you with glazed eyes.
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posted on
12/16/2005 5:12:06 PM PST
by
Marine_Uncle
(Honor must be earned)
To: Marine_Uncle
I think no one knew until the Gore-Bush debacle in Florida. I didn't. It seems that perhaps the US schools are really failing to educate their children as to what it means to be an American. (Don't think I am saying this snidely as though Canada has a better system). That's a tragedy, because if you don't know why your system of government is the best in the world, how can you defend it against erosion?
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posted on
12/16/2005 9:31:29 PM PST
by
Sam Gamgee
(May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
To: ckilmer
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posted on
12/17/2005 7:43:23 AM PST
by
Ostlandr
("Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to suffering." - Master Yoda)
To: Sam Gamgee
"That's a tragedy, because if you don't know why your system of government is the best in the world, how can you defend it against erosion?"
Well said. At any rate, I hope you folks shall continue seeing an upsurge in your conservative movement. I admit I do not follow your politics nor that of other nations anywhere as well as I should. One cannot continue to give the national treasures away without eventually going into the poor house.
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posted on
12/17/2005 10:24:46 AM PST
by
Marine_Uncle
(Honor must be earned)
To: freedom44
The Christian Right are Israel's best friends.
To: narby
A scientific "theory" is the end game in science, it doesn't get any higher than that.
Sure it can. There is a step above theory. Its a scientific law. Thats why you have Newton's three laws of motion. They are not theory, they are indisputable. Scientific theories can be fairly iron clad, but not necessarily irrefutable. That is why they are called Theories.
To: Marine_Uncle
Not only do most Americans not know what the Electoral College is for, they also don't know what the US Senate is for. The founders orignally had the state legislatures elect the Senators for a reason. Since the XVII amendment was passed, now the state legislatures don't have a single check against the Federal government, except for calling a Constitutional Convention. We should give our state legislatures a check in the Senate again. We should repeal the XVII amendment and restore Checks and Balances to our system. Then the states could stop liberal judges who ban religion from this nation from being confirmed.
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