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1 posted on 12/15/2005 6:24:03 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
After the carnage of the Wilderness, Cold Harbor and Petersburg in 1864, the conventional wisdom about the Civil War was that the bumbling Abraham Lincoln could never win re-election.

"Conventional wisdom" among COPPERHEADS!

2 posted on 12/15/2005 6:27:45 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: neverdem

I think America should be given credit for prosecuting this war with a bare minimum of bloodshed on both sides.

So far, America has lost -- what -- about 2,000 brave troops in Iraq over the past 2 years. Far too many, sure. To put into perspective, America lost 2,400 troops on Omaha Beach alone, during the first day of the Normandie invasion. With plenty more casualties to come.

How can America's troops possibly concentrate and do their jobs properly, over the shrill cries from the sheeple to "bring 'em home because it's a disaster."

God's blessings on all those who choose to serve, and on their Families. Bring the troops home safe, Lord, victorious and in good health when the job is done. And thankyou for their sacrifice.


3 posted on 12/15/2005 6:33:34 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: neverdem

Sounds like McArthur was calling for more military action, not less...?


6 posted on 12/15/2005 6:58:01 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: neverdem

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007663


None Dare Call It Conspiracy
We've been hearing variations on "BUSH LIED!!!!" for at least 60
years.


BY MORTON KELLER
Sunday, December 11, 2005 12:01 a.m. EST


Excerpts........


"Variations of "Bush lied" have been part of the political scene ever
since America plunged into its permanent overseas embroilment in the
Second World War. Reviewing that record won't settle the current
dispute over how and why we got into Iraq. But it should remind us
that George W. Bush's accusers are hardly walking in fresh snow.


The charge that FDR knew of the Japanese intention to attack Pearl
Harbor, but used it to ensure American entry into the war against the
Axis, surfaced after 1945, when the war was over, FDR was dead, and
the decks were cleared for some sleeves-rolled-up recrimination. In
1948 the progressive historian (and prewar isolationist) Charles A.
Beard accused FDR of "maneuvering the country into war." Anti-New Deal
Republicans such as Robert A. Taft, anxious for a stick with which to
whack at FDR, thought FDR's "policy of bluff" drove Japan to its Pearl
Harbor attack. The accusation never really took hold, but never wholly
faded away. Eccentric historian John Toland (who found much good in
Hitler) resurrected the FDR conspiracy story in his book "Infamy"
(1982), which unfortunately appeared a year after Gordon Prange's "At
Dawn We Slept" definitively buried it. "..........................


"History's lesson is this: in modern America, the path to war is beset
with actions that rest on uncertain or arguable justification. The
political/ideological fringes will craft theories of conspiracy with
scant regard for fact or probability. And the opposition will make
what it can of this material, within the limits of political
prudence."


7 posted on 12/15/2005 7:06:59 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: neverdem

ping 4 later read


8 posted on 12/15/2005 7:25:45 PM PST by TheRobb7 (The American Spirit does not require a federal subsidy.)
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To: wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; King Prout; ..
Mightier Than the Pen - Why I gave up Journalism to Join the Marines

Glimpses of Guantanamo — Medical Ethics and the War on Terror (New England Journal of Medicine)

The author of the Gitmo article sounds like a fellow traveler in more ways than one. Mark Levin read the VDH article on his show. Laura Ingraham read the MATT POTTINGER column on her show. I went to http://lauraingraham.com/. Enter a name and email addy for the rest of the story.

From time to time, I’ll ping on noteworthy articles about politics, foreign and military affairs. FReepmail me if you want on or off my list.

12 posted on 12/15/2005 7:51:13 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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