[Fester Chugabrew]

Natural selection is observable. Mutations and genetic recombination are observable. The fossil record is observable. The genetic code is observable. Speciation has been observed.

Of course these things are observable. They are intelligently designed. The capacity to be observed would be additional evidence for intelligent design. Thank you for pointing that out. Of course, most of the claims of evolution are by indirect observation - certainly a legitimate form of observation, but not as reliable as direct observation, such as was practiced by astrologers in times of old.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Of course these things are observable. They are intelligently designed."

?? Natural selection is by definition, NOT intelligent design. What evidence is there that mutations, genetic recombination, the fossil record, and speciation are intelligently designed? None. You are defining EVERYTHING CONCIEVABLE as being intelligent design, a priori. This is absurd. How can a grown man make such a ludicrous statement? BTW, before you said these things weren't observable. Try to be consistent. :)

"Of course, most of the claims of evolution are by indirect observation - certainly a legitimate form of observation, but not as reliable as direct observation, such as was practiced by astrologers in times of old."

This is farcical. The only thing the ancient astrologers recorded was the movement of the planets and stars. They NEVER directly observed the alleged *forces* that were supposed to affect people's lives because of the movements of the stars and planets. They never INDIRECTLY observed these *forces* either. They are as observable as your alleged designer.