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To: Physicist
If nature (red in tooth and claw) doesn't have direction, purpose, values, or preferences, it in no way follows that I don't have those things, or that other people don't have those things, or that humanity as a whole doesn't have those things.

If we are the product of evolution then where, pray tell, did "those things" come from if they are not from undirected natural selection.

Go back to article. O.E. Wilson has written:

Ethics as we understand it is an illusion

I believe that logic requires that we agree.

You say that purpose, direction, values and preferences have meaning to you. But they are the result of mutation and selection. Those without that specific mutation didn't survive. There isn't any "real" meaning beyond the mutation. The fact that we think there is more to them ended up being an advantage in the fight for survival. But the cat is out of the bag. Really, there is nothing outside the box.

67 posted on 12/12/2005 9:50:08 AM PST by Pete
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To: Pete
Let me get this straight: do you really believe--or think that evolutionists believe--that people's ideas, opinions, values, morals, etc. are encoded in their genes?

If that's what you think you're debunking, you've touched down on the wrong planet, I'm afraid.

74 posted on 12/12/2005 9:58:52 AM PST by Physicist
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