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LIVE Thread - Bush Could Revive Heisman RB Tradition (Heisman Trophy Award presentation on ESPN)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/10/05 | Ralph D. Russo - ap

Posted on 12/10/2005 3:19:08 PM PST by NormsRevenge

NEW YORK - From John Cappelletti to Mike Rozier, running backs once walked off with 11 consecutive Heisman Trophies. Recently, though, quarterbacks have been too tough to pass up. The last five Heisman winners have been QBs.

Reggie Bush is a good bet to snap that streak Saturday night and become the 41st ball carrier to tuck away college football's most prestigious individual award since Chicago halfback Jay Berwanger won the first in 1935.

USC's untouchable tailback is the favorite after capping a brilliant junior season with two breathtaking performances and an outrageous average of 8.9 yards a carry.

"That's crazy. That's ludicrous," said Tony Dorsett, the 1976 Heisman winner from Pittsburgh. "It is just unheard of. Reggie's a game-breaker, a big-game player. That's all you need to say."

Guess where Dorsett's vote is going?

Bush will be joined by Texas quarterback Vince Young and USC quarterback Matt Leinart in midtown Manhattan when the Heisman is handed out for the 71st time.

The three finalists have been the favorites even before the season started.

Leinart, last year's Heisman winner, became a contender to repeat as soon as he decided to bypass the chance for NFL millions and return for his senior season. The left-hander has thrown for 3,450 yards and 27 touchdowns this season, improving to 37-1 as a starter for the top-ranked Trojans.

If Leinart wins the Heisman, he'll join Archie Griffin as the only players to win the award twice. The Ohio State running back did it in 1974 and '75.

As a past winner, Leinart gets to cast a ballot.

"Reggie's got my vote," Leinart said after Bush ran for 260 yards and two touchdowns in the Trojans' 66-19 victory over UCLA that wrapped up a perfect regular season.

If Bush wins the award, he and Leinart will become the third set of teammates to win the award in consecutive years.

The last were Army's famous Mr. Inside and Mr. Outside, Doc Blanchard and Glenn Davis, in 1945-46.

And the two USC stars could become the first Heisman winners to play together in a college game when USC (12-0) meets No. 2 Texas (12-0) in the Rose Bowl for the national title on Jan. 4.

Or if Young wins, the national title game will be a matchup of Heisman winners for the second straight year — and the second time ever.

Last season after Leinart won the award, USC played Oklahoma and 2004 Heisman winner Jason White in the Orange Bowl, marking the first Heisman showdown in college football.

Young has always been one of the most dangerous runners in the country — he showed that in last year's Rose Bowl, scoring four touchdowns on the ground against Michigan — but this season he's developed into a topflight passer. The junior leads the nation is passing efficiency at 168.6 with 26 touchdown passes.

He would be Texas' third Heisman winner. The first two were running backs. Ricky Williams won it in 1998 and Earl Campbell ('77) was part of that long run of Heisman running backs, starting in 1973 with Penn State fullback Cappelletti and ending with Nebraska I-back Rozier.

In between, USC cemented its reputation as tailback U. with Charles White ('79) and Marcus Allen ('81) joining O.J. Simpson ('68) and Mike Garrett ('65) as Heisman winners.

USC has gotten back in the Heisman-winning business in recent years with quarterbacks. Carson Palmer took the award in 2002, then Leinart last season.

With six Heisman winners, the Trojans trail only Notre Dame, which has seven.

Bush and Young seemed neck and neck in the Heisman race for most of the season, then Bush put a season's worth of highlights together in one game against Fresno State on Nov. 19. He gained 513 all-purpose yards, helping USC escape with a 50-42 victory.

As with Leinart, Bush is being touted as a possible No. 1 pick in the NFL draft, even with a year of college eligibility left.

Bush has said he'll decide whether to go pro after the Rose Bowl.

"Right now, college football is fun," Bush said. "It's everything I ever dreamed up. You only go to college once."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: collegefootball; heisman; mattleinart; reggiebush; trophy; vinceyoung
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To: NormsRevenge

Is this the live thread? Watching on ESPN now.


41 posted on 12/10/2005 5:03:05 PM PST by Unknown Freeper (Doing my part...)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

I corrected that, I meant Lucky.


42 posted on 12/10/2005 5:03:11 PM PST by aft_lizard (What does G-d look like then if we evolved from nothing?See Genisis Ch 1:26-27)
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To: Txsleuth
No wonder Texas is so tough. All you have to do is look at that schedule for next year. To their credit, Texas will play USU, then things really get hard for the Horns. Not only are they facing North Texas ST, they have to try to match up against Rice (I didn`t know the still played football), and then, if that was not enough, Coach Brown and his boys will try to outlast and overcome some, how, some way, the dreaded team from SAM HOUSTON STATE.
The conference schedule against the BIG 12 must look easy after tough preseason games like those.
43 posted on 12/10/2005 5:05:49 PM PST by bybybill (GOD help us if the Rats win)
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To: aft_lizard

Man, does Leinhart ever shave. Geez!


44 posted on 12/10/2005 5:06:03 PM PST by diamond6
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To: bybybill

Holy Cow! I've never heard of such a difficult schedule.


45 posted on 12/10/2005 5:06:58 PM PST by diamond6
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To: aft_lizard

I see, sorry 'bout that. Lucky, the kid from North Hollywood. Being from CA, I'll be interested in him also. Look forward to seeing the Huskers out here next year.


46 posted on 12/10/2005 5:09:12 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: aft_lizard

We saw a Big 12 defense last year in the orange bowl and the did a great job that night holding SC to only 52 points


47 posted on 12/10/2005 5:09:14 PM PST by bybybill (GOD help us if the Rats win)
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To: bybybill

LOL----Texas doesn't hire no fools!!!

Seriesly, I hadn't seen next year's schedule...Playing North Texas and Sam Houston State...is pretty embarrassing...

IF they want to have high vote counts in the polls...they have GOT to do better..but, it is already too late.

I think they "agree" to these schedules 3-5 years in advance.

BTW...North Texas is my husband's alma mater...have some respect!!! LOL


48 posted on 12/10/2005 5:10:39 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: aft_lizard

The Tiny 12 is full of teams that have no offense - and that's the fact Jack!


49 posted on 12/10/2005 5:10:59 PM PST by diamond6
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To: aft_lizard

Come on, a player doesn`t set the school record for scoring at a school like USC and be "just another back."


50 posted on 12/10/2005 5:12:23 PM PST by bybybill (GOD help us if the Rats win)
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To: Unknown Freeper

I'm asking the AM to mod the title to Live thread as we see past winners in the audience.
Archie Griffin .. wow.


51 posted on 12/10/2005 5:14:03 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: bybybill

Everybody who didnt have the head up there ass knew OU had one of the worst pass defenses in the nation. So try that on me again, or are you so stuck in the past that you cant see the future through your cult-like pac ten eyes.

We will se how great and wonderful your precious Pac 10 defenses and offenses are this year. You guys wont be facing the dead last run defenses and bottom range pass defenses this time.


52 posted on 12/10/2005 5:14:19 PM PST by aft_lizard (What does G-d look like then if we evolved from nothing?See Genisis Ch 1:26-27)
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To: bybybill

Ah yes they do with an offensive line nd 4 other genuine stars on offense yes you can set the scoring record and be just another back.


53 posted on 12/10/2005 5:15:48 PM PST by aft_lizard (What does G-d look like then if we evolved from nothing?See Genisis Ch 1:26-27)
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To: aft_lizard
We will se how great and wonderful your precious Pac 10 defenses and offenses are this year. You guys wont be facing the dead last run defenses and bottom range pass defenses this time.

And Texas won't be facing the dreadfully horrible defenses from the Tiny 12. What will they do when they really face a tough offense? We'll see.

54 posted on 12/10/2005 5:17:02 PM PST by diamond6
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To: aft_lizard

This year, Big 12 fans were cheated as the only "real college football" they got to see was on TV.( see BIG 12 North Champs, Colorado)


55 posted on 12/10/2005 5:18:22 PM PST by bybybill (GOD help us if the Rats win)
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To: diamond6

I think they will be the Shorthorns on January 4th.


56 posted on 12/10/2005 5:18:25 PM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Reggie Bush would not be the all-purpose yards leader if it were not for being on a stellar team with another Heisman-caliber player for defenses to counter. Vince Young has no similar crutch.


57 posted on 12/10/2005 5:19:22 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: Pharmboy

Nice tribute to Davis here.


58 posted on 12/10/2005 5:19:44 PM PST by Unknown Freeper (Doing my part...)
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To: Teacher317

So, I guess in that case it will be simple to stop the Texas offense in the Rose Bowl, won't it?


59 posted on 12/10/2005 5:20:29 PM PST by diamond6
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Tribute to Glenn Davis earlier this year, past Heisman recipent Trophy from West Point .. USMA


60 posted on 12/10/2005 5:20:54 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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