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Witnesses heard no talk of bomb
Orlando Sentinel ^ | December 9 | Mark Schlueb Sentinel Staff Writer

Posted on 12/09/2005 12:28:29 PM PST by MRMEAN

..., it became increasingly apparent that the Maitland man killed by federal air marshals may have been fleeing in panic as he suffered the symptoms of bipolar disorder.

--SNIP--

A Miami-Dade police spokeswoman said Thursday that multiple witnesses reported that the 44-year-old was yelling that he had a bomb as he made his way down the aisle with a backpack slung across his chest. Later, the agency's chief of investigations insisted that Alpizar was yelling about a bomb but declined to say whether he was on the plane at the time.

Seven passengers interviewed by the Orlando Sentinel -- seated in both the front and rear of the main passenger cabin -- said Alpizar was silent as he ran past them on his way to the exit. One thought he had taken the wrong flight. Another thought he was going to throw up.

"I can tell you, he never said a thing in that airplane. He never called out he had a bomb," said Orlando architect Jorge A. Borrelli, who helped comfort Alpizar's wife after the gunfire. "He never said a word from the point he passed me at Row 9. . . . He did not say a word to anybody."

Two teens seated in Row 26 agreed. So did Jorge Figueroa, a power-plant operator from Lakeland seated a few rows behind first class.

"He wasn't saying anything; he was just running," Figueroa said. "I said to myself, 'It is probably a person who took the wrong plane.' "

What Alpizar's fellow passengers did hear were the desperate explanations from Buechner, Alpizar's wife, who at first seemed embarrassed by her husband's hasty exit. She started to follow him off the plane, saying, "He's sick. He needs to get off the plane," witnesses said.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airmarshal; alpizar; flight924
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To: Howlin

Well, the whole thing had the look of a drug deal gone bad. The way the media presented it, initially, that this plane had just come in from Columbia. The 'courier' is now dead and his effects blown up. The only witness are the Sky Marshalls...
But, yes, I probably would and even now DO complain about the Sky Marshalls. Why? Because they should be on EVERY plane.
Beyond that, I think that every time a Govt. agent shoots someone, we should all take a good hard look. This is the perfect forum for that, and I'm glad to see that this is what is happening here.


81 posted on 12/09/2005 1:46:26 PM PST by Paisan
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
He never said a word from the point he passed me at Row 9. . . .

Explain to me how in FIRST CLASS this dude heard every word that was said in the LAST ROW of the plane and in coach?

Even the guy who's looking for his 15 minutes of fame said he roared down the aisle "looking like he was doing 1000 miles a hour, knocking people out of the way."

82 posted on 12/09/2005 1:47:05 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

BTW, that's seven (maybe); let's hear from the other 113.


83 posted on 12/09/2005 1:47:30 PM PST by Howlin
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To: TCats
IMO The whole story is just too pat - Yelling 'Bomb' and then making threatening movements after exiting the plane. I just don't buy it.

So then the alternative is that the Feds shot a quiet, unassuming passenger.

That's a pretty ridiculous alternative also.

84 posted on 12/09/2005 1:48:19 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

They were ALL on the news as soon as they got off the plane.


85 posted on 12/09/2005 1:48:51 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Paisan

Well, I notice that there are some who ALWAYS take the side AGAINST anybody involved with LEO.


86 posted on 12/09/2005 1:49:39 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Explain to me how in FIRST CLASS this dude heard every word that was said in the LAST ROW of the plane and in coach?

So did Jorge Figueroa, a power-plant operator from Lakeland seated a few rows behind first class.

"...He wasn't saying anything; he was just running," Figueroa said. "I said to myself, 'It is probably a person who took the wrong plane.' "

87 posted on 12/09/2005 1:49:42 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (Karen Ryan reporting...)
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To: Howlin
BTW, that's seven (maybe); let's hear from the other 113.

LOL! Never say die, eh?

88 posted on 12/09/2005 1:50:26 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (Karen Ryan reporting...)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

You mean when he RAN BY HIM he wasn't saying anything?

The furthest row back I've seen is 26; do you have any clue how big this plane was? How on EARTH could they hear everything he said?


89 posted on 12/09/2005 1:50:56 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

No, never take the word of a few people who are anxious to get their faces on TV, which could be said of the ones I've seen on TV so far.


90 posted on 12/09/2005 1:51:33 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Paisan; TCats
I'm with you man. And this was driven home when I saw the luggage being conveniently destroyed on the tarmac...

Tinfoil's gettin' a little too tight.

91 posted on 12/09/2005 1:53:00 PM PST by EricT. (Caiaphas acted just like a modern Democrat.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
"I said to myself, 'It is probably a person who took the wrong plane.' "

BTW, by his own statement, this guy pretty much admits he hadn't a clue what was going on until the guy passed him in Row 26; from all reports, there had been quite an altercation back in Coach; whatz up with him not hearing that?

92 posted on 12/09/2005 1:53:14 PM PST by Howlin
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To: EricT.

LOL!


93 posted on 12/09/2005 1:53:33 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

...take the side AGAINST anybody involved with LEO.

I'm not that guy.


94 posted on 12/09/2005 1:53:37 PM PST by Paisan
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To: Paisan

And I certainly didn't mean to imply you were! I thought I was agreeing with you.........LOL...sort of!


95 posted on 12/09/2005 1:54:59 PM PST by Howlin
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To: brytlea

Yeah, it happens, life goes on.:)


96 posted on 12/09/2005 1:56:19 PM PST by RambozoDClown
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To: Raycpa

It's possible someone on the plane, seeing Alpizar acting up, said "he might have a bomb."


97 posted on 12/09/2005 1:57:50 PM PST by TwoSue
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To: Jigsaw John
Why would they want to attract attention to themselves prior to executing their mission? Why not just walk quietly into a crowded area and execute?

If the mission is to target is law enforcement, public officials and military--the tough guys--, attracting attention is standard m.o. Some suicide bombers are assigned to terrorize civilians: They walk into crowds and detonate.

Again, the air marshall had no way of knowing this was not an ARMED terrorist.

98 posted on 12/09/2005 1:58:14 PM PST by TaxRelief (Thank a soldier, today!)
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To: Howlin

If you really want some serious LOL time, check out these same threads at DU...

It's Scotch nite so ANYTHING they say on the subject evokes nose clearing snickering.


99 posted on 12/09/2005 1:59:44 PM PST by Paisan
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To: Paisan

Scotch nite? I don't suppose you mean the country, huh?


100 posted on 12/09/2005 2:03:24 PM PST by Howlin
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