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America’s (second) most important hawk
The HIll ^ | 12/8/05 | Byron York

Posted on 12/07/2005 8:31:23 PM PST by Jean S

Does the political world realize just how big a hawk Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) really is?

Lost in the coverage of the former Vietnam prisoner of war’s campaign against torture and inhumane treatment of detainees in the war on terror is a true appreciation of McCain’s full-tilt, nothing-less-than-victory support of the war in Iraq.

I interviewed McCain recently for a story in The New Republic magazine, and he spoke about the war in a way that was both tougher and more understanding than George W. Bush himself.

There are a lot of reasons why we should see the fight through to the finish, McCain believes. But perhaps the most pressing reason is also the simplest. “We cannot afford to lose,” he told me. “Just read Zarqawi. We lose it, and they’re coming after us.”

Get-out-fast proposals like the one from Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.) baffle McCain. The idea of removing U.S. troops from Iraq, only to station them nearby, seems pointless. “To do what?” McCain asks. “I know of no military strategist who would tell you that that kind of arrangement would work.”

I asked McCain about Murtha himself. “Jack’s a lovable guy,” McCain told me. “But he’s never been a big thinker; he’s an appropriator.”

But why has Murtha decided to come forward now? “As we get older, we get more sentimental,” McCain says, “and Jack has been very, very affected by the funerals and the families. But you cannot let that affect the way you decide policy.”

That’s a statement George W. Bush simply could not make.

It could only come from a veteran like McCain who both knows the cost of war and who — after a lot of thought — has made the decision that it’s worth paying.

McCain isn’t reluctant to point out American mistakes in Iraq. But when he does, he doesn’t put it all on Bush. Listen to him talk about those missteps and he says “we,” not “he.”

“We never should have said ‘Mission Accomplished,’” McCain told me. “We never should have said ‘a few dead-enders.’ We never should have said ‘last throes.’ Part of it is our own making, by creating expectations which obviously didn’t come to fruition.”

And the president should still, in McCain’s view, get rid of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

But in spite of all that, McCain believes that the U.S., and the cause of Iraqi independence, are moving forward in Iraq, a little bit at a time.

“I think the situation on the ground is going to improve,” he says. “I do think that progress is being made in a lot of Iraq. Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course. If I thought we weren’t making progress, I’d be despondent.”

What has been difficult for McCain — and many other administration supporters — to figure out is why the Bush administration hasn’t been more aggressive and more vocal in its defense of the war. For months, the president has made occasional statements on the subject while Democrats kept up a daily barrage of “Bush lied and people died.”

A lot of charges went unanswered for a long time. Why? “I’ve tried to figure it out,” McCain told me. “I don’t know the answer, and I don’t want to be critical. But it seems to me it’s pretty obvious there were distractions. There’s a little bit of fatigue that hits every administration in the second term.”

And then: “Maybe there wasn’t an appreciation for the ferocity of the Democrats. I’ve never seen such ferocity, such bitterness and anger. It’s just phenomenal.”

And it’s likely to get uglier, because the opposition party sees a political advantage in continuing the fight. “You and I know the Democrats would not be nearly as active as they are if they weren’t looking at polling data,” McCain says.

Right now, beside the president himself, there is no other Republican in Washington who speaks about the war as passionately and with such determination as McCain. And that makes him — again after the president himself — arguably the most important hawk in the country.

Just look at the uproar caused by Murtha. The press immediately portrayed Murtha as a leading hawk on the war (even though he had already expressed great doubts about the fight) and suggested that Murtha’s announcement meant that hard-core supporters of the war were changing their minds on Iraq.

Now imagine if John McCain were to do something similar. A McCain turn against the war would have an immediate, explosive and enormously damaging effect on the public’s — and the government’s — resolve to keep going.

Not gonna happen, says McCain: “It will be a cold day in Gila Bend, my friend.”

He sounds like he believes it. And by the way, the average summer temperature in Gila Bend, Ariz., is 109 degrees.

York is a White House correspondent for National Review. His column appears in The Hill each week. E-mail: byork@thehill.com


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; byronyork; mccain

1 posted on 12/07/2005 8:31:24 PM PST by Jean S
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To: JeanS

Gee, I guess I was wrong about McLame.


2 posted on 12/07/2005 8:34:07 PM PST by razorback-bert
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To: JeanS
“We never should have said ‘Mission Accomplished,’” McCain told me. “We never should have said ‘a few dead-enders.’ We never should have said ‘last throes.’

And we never should have said "woo hoo!"

3 posted on 12/07/2005 8:35:45 PM PST by BagelFace (BOOGABOOGABOOGABOOGA!!!!)
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To: razorback-bert

York is one of my favorite commentators and this disappoints me some. It looks like he's going to be backing McCain for 2008.


4 posted on 12/07/2005 8:43:05 PM PST by Jean S
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To: BagelFace
Well, all McCain has to say is that he supports George W Bush.

The man who was once a hero has become a swinging politician.

The truth isn't always pretty.
5 posted on 12/07/2005 8:45:17 PM PST by the final gentleman
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To: the final gentleman

He spent most of the summer of 2004 saying just that.


6 posted on 12/07/2005 8:48:25 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: the final gentleman

JF Kerry was once a hero (well....). Anyway, serving one's country does not preclude being self-serving. McCain is self-serving. To what extent he's blind to reality, one can never know.


7 posted on 12/07/2005 8:51:11 PM PST by BagelFace (BOOGABOOGABOOGABOOGA!!!!)
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To: razorback-bert
Better "check you six", mate.

Before you give this RINO any accolades, I suggest you think through what is behind McCain's quasi-support of Bush.

I knew McCain's father extremely well -- and I suggest that the Admiral would be turning in his grave were he to follow his son's craven political machinations.
8 posted on 12/07/2005 9:15:40 PM PST by dk/coro
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To: razorback-bert

Not wrong, unless you believe the jerk, he will run to the right for the primaries, then cut to the left for the general and if elected.

There are hawks and there are hawks, and the McCainiac is neither.

On the Colorado River in this part of Arizona, 130 degrees in the summer is not uncommon, and it was 31 degrees here this AM.


10 posted on 12/07/2005 10:09:14 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: BagelFace

we never said 'mission accomplished' idiot. John McCain is an idiot.


11 posted on 12/07/2005 10:14:38 PM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: kevinjdeanna
Sure McCain is a hawk. He's just an Open Borders nut and therefore, won't get my vote.

So's "Jorge" Bush, did he get your vote? With the exception of Tom Tancredo, I can't think of too many potential GOP 2008 candidates who are, more less, "open borders" (at least where Mexicans are concerned).

12 posted on 12/07/2005 10:17:07 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: pawdoggie
sorry...meant to say, "who aren't open borders...
13 posted on 12/07/2005 10:18:37 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: GeronL
we never said 'mission accomplished' idiot.

huh? lol! see, that is what happens when you take drugs

14 posted on 12/07/2005 10:21:53 PM PST by BagelFace (BOOGABOOGABOOGABOOGA!!!!)
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To: BagelFace

McCain is a druggie?


15 posted on 12/07/2005 10:38:28 PM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: JeanS

I wouldn't say that York has gone over to the dark side..He's oneof the best poitical writers around today, and has great sources..I'd say this is more of a favor for McCain, a trial ballon..in return York gets greater access..


16 posted on 12/08/2005 4:32:41 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: JeanS

Another important hawk, A. J. Hawk, 2005 Lombardi Award winner.

17 posted on 12/08/2005 5:13:23 AM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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Putting the “Chicken Hawk” Label to Bed
The Tin Ear/MND | Friday, November 18, 2005 | Will Malven
Posted on 11/18/2005 10:00:01 AM EST by Nasty McPhilthy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1524523/posts


19 posted on 05/03/2006 4:01:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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