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Mirecki hospitalized after beating (KU Relig. prof. who mocked religion)
Lawrence Journal World ^ | 12/05/05 | Ron Knox

Posted on 12/05/2005 8:13:08 PM PST by Will_Zurmacht

Mirecki hospitalized after beating

By Ron Knox, Eric Weslander (Contact)

Originally published 05:37 p.m., December 5, 2005 Updated 06:31 p.m., December 5, 2005

Douglas County sheriff’s deputies are investigating the reported beating of a Kansas University professor who gained recent notoriety for his Internet tirades against Christian fundamentalists.

Kansas University religious studies professor Paul Mirecki reported he was beaten by two men about 6:40 a.m. today on a roadside in rural Douglas County. In a series of interviews late this afternoon, Mirecki said the men who beat him were making references to the controversy that has propelled him into the headlines in recent weeks. Mirecki

Mirecki

“I didn’t know them, but I’m sure they knew me,” he said.

Mirecki said he was driving to breakfast when he noticed the men tailgating him in a pickup truck.

“I just pulled over hoping they would pass, and then they pulled up real close behind,” he said. “They got out, and I made the mistake of getting out.”

He said the men beat him about the upper body with their fists, and he said he thinks they struck him with a metal object. He was treated and released at Lawrence Memorial Hospital.

“I’m mostly shaken up, and I got some bruises and sore spots,” he said.

Douglas County Sheriff’s Officials are classifying the case as an aggravated battery. They wouldn’t say exactly where the incident happened, citing the ongoing investigation

The sheriff’s department is looking for the suspects, described as two white males between ages 30 and 40, one wearing a red visor and wool gloves, and both wearing jeans. They were last seen in a large pickup truck.

Anyone with information is asked to call Crime Stoppers at 843-TIPS or the sheriff’s office at 841-0007.

Mirecki recently wrote online that he planned to teach intelligent design as mythology in an upcoming course. He wrote it would be a “nice slap” in the “big fat face” of fundamentalists.

The remarks caused an uproar, Mirecki apologized, and KU announced last week the class would be canceled.


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KEYWORDS: ameritaliban; cawcaw; crevolist; fakehatecrimes; falsechristian; idgoons; ku; legbreakersforchrist; mirecki; paulmirecki; religionofpeace; talibornagain; unsaved
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To: CarolinaGuitarman; All

I hadn't read # 461 until now, but I still can't object to it. because in a rational world it makes sense.

Who among us, if we came upon a group of blood thirsty thugs bashing the brains out of 50 million puppies, kittens or baby chickens on the sidewalk, would not stop the slaughter anyway we could??

This very scenerio has taken place to the tune of 50 million baby humans in abortitoriums, for the past 30 years, while we sit on our hands and whine like a bunch of helpless ninnies.

You, I and almost everyone else offended and repulsed by this slaughter are too much into self preservation to sacrifice our lives for the lives of these little ones.

I suspect that when we stand before God on judgement day, even more than the heartless baby butchers,we will have to explain why we considered our own cowardly lives and comforts more valuable than the lives of the little ones who we allowed to be murdered, without doing a damn thing to stop it.

I believe that God will be more merciful to those who sacrificed their mortal lives in feeble attempts to destroy those evil places and the evil people that occupied them, than he will to us.

Though I myself am a coward,I respect those heroes who are portrayed as evil, by the very ones who enable the true evil to continue.


541 posted on 12/06/2005 4:30:42 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: RunningWolf
I've been known to poke fun at astronauts, some think that's a horrifying thing rather than a chat-issue and political irrelevancy--but astronauts are not an important GOP constituency, are they, the way conservative Christians are?

Funny how the ones these guys hate most are the ones the GOP badly needs--if they could splinter off a few votes, they'd get their majority in the Senate.

542 posted on 12/06/2005 4:32:39 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Senator Bedfellow
Speaking only for myself, Mirecki was an ass. He did apologize, but even if he hadn't, it still doesn't deserve violence in response.

Change "was" to is and we have a contract.

543 posted on 12/06/2005 4:32:40 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: F.J. Mitchell

"I hadn't read # 461 until now, but I still can't object to it. because in a rational world it makes sense. "

You sir, need help.


544 posted on 12/06/2005 4:33:02 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Mamzelle
I have the same suspicion at times, a greater agenda going on.
545 posted on 12/06/2005 4:33:26 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: jwalsh07

Deal.


546 posted on 12/06/2005 4:34:34 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow (Sneering condescension.)
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To: Right Wing Professor; F.J. Mitchell

You were right. He ( F.J. Mitchell) thought that post 461 was just peachy. Very telling.


547 posted on 12/06/2005 4:36:01 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Right Wing Professor
He might well have a bumper sticker or two. Given his outspoken opinions, I wouldn't be surprised.

Don't get me wrong, I thought about it, too. But they knew who he was. Not that he was some sort of pinko professor guy from Larrytown, but he was the guy.

he pulls over, they stop for a little rumble, recognize him (his picture's been on the paper and on TV in Kansas),

So was the prof stopping over for a little rumble, too?

Turns out the best breakfast place in Lawrence is on the south side of town, so that adds up, too. Lawrence isn't that big a place.

Which made me wonder why he went so far away. Again, that was to clear his head. Sorry, too many coin flips that have to all turn up heads.

548 posted on 12/06/2005 4:40:58 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: highball
It just goes to show ya that in this country we have free speech but you still have to pay for the consequences.

If violence is the consequence of speech, then it isn't "free." The Colonists had that "freedom" under the king.

Let me clarify my statement meant as /sarc. One can open their mouth and say whatever they want to say. They have the right in this country to do so, but beware, whatever one says can have unexpected consequences that one did not anticipate nor can one control.

Example: If you walk up to a biker and tell him that his lady is one butt ugly woman, you have every right in this country to voice that opinion, but you may not have thought through the unexpected consequences when the biker proceeds to rearrange your face. It has nothing to do with having the rights to free speech. It has everthing to do with basic human interaction, ergo, my original statement was intended to point out the irony that you have rights of free speech, but if some other person gets offended by what you said, then you may pay in the end by receiving an unexpected result from voicing your free speech. You can choose your actions, but you cannot choose the consequences. That's all.

549 posted on 12/06/2005 4:41:21 PM PST by OB1kNOb (I'm gonna boogie oogie woogie til I just can't boogie no more..............)
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To: Mamzelle
The agenda: try to alienate the GOP pol from the religious. Then alienate the religious from the GOP pol. GOP pol goes down in defeat (particularly if he's a vulnerable Repub, like, say--Santorum, maybe?) and the Dems get their victory--a majority DNC Senate.

It's about politics--and the internet. It's been going on since Compuserve days.

Split only a few votes off the GOP, and the Dems are back in power.



I hear you

Whether you have poked fun at a topic is irrelevant to this attempt of splintering off the GOP that may in fact be going on here. That is a smokescreen of course.

Lord help us if it succeeds and the Dems are back in power.

Wolf
550 posted on 12/06/2005 4:41:28 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: Mamzelle

Yes, Mirecki's face does irritate, no doubt about it. After a second look though, it's not a face I'd want to stick a fist into, but rather a face that is begging for a cream pie to be shoved into it.

They are definately laying it on thick and turning every ant hill into a mountain of contention. I suspect we all have dealt with this bunch or their peers before, under different names of course.


551 posted on 12/06/2005 4:43:57 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: AmishDude
But they knew who he was. Not that he was some sort of pinko professor guy from Larrytown, but he was the guy.

They knew who he was when he confronted them. They could have recognized him as that ay-thee-yust egghead. You don't know they knew that before they stopped.

So was the prof stopping over for a little rumble, too?

My wife told me today she's scared it's exactly the kind of thing I'd do. And living in this part of the country, you really don't expect violence.

552 posted on 12/06/2005 4:47:33 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Telling in a way that I am more than happy to claim ownership of.


553 posted on 12/06/2005 4:48:48 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
And different names again. There's a lot of free time (and plentiful funds from Hollyweird and billionaires) when you're out of power and wanting desperately to get back in power--

There's a weak spot in the GOP when it comes to libertarians and the religious right. The libertarians have to learn to understand that even their cultural opposites can have a seat at the table--their tax cuts and property rights may well depend on a little tolerant alliance.

554 posted on 12/06/2005 4:49:08 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: F.J. Mitchell

"Telling in a way that I am more than happy to claim ownership of."

I know you do. That's what's so sick about it.


555 posted on 12/06/2005 4:50:03 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Mamzelle

The survival of America, may well rest upon a little tolerant alliance. Hope they get it, before it's too late.


556 posted on 12/06/2005 4:55:21 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Are you kidding? You are no more capable of determining who needs "help" than you are of determining the difference between gloating and sarcasm. Suggestions of "help" from someone who has no moral anchor are as valuable as a red visor cap in the dead of winter. Besides, you are not really interested in anyone receiving "help." You merely tossed out the suggestion as an insult.


557 posted on 12/06/2005 5:01:14 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

" That's what's so sick about it."

If that's sick, I don't want to be well.


558 posted on 12/06/2005 5:02:40 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
"Suggestions of "help" from someone who has no moral anchor are as valuable as a red visor cap in the dead of winter."

Then I would suggest you don't try to give me help. As for me, I DO have a moral anchor. And please, PLEASE, loosen that vice grip up your head Uncle Fester.
559 posted on 12/06/2005 5:05:24 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: F.J. Mitchell

"If that's sick, I don't want to be well."

That's why you're sick.


560 posted on 12/06/2005 5:06:53 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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