Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Mexican governments aid to illegal migrants
Dallas Morning News ^ | 12/4/05 | Heather MacDonald

Posted on 12/04/2005 12:47:06 PM PST by nonomous

Diplomacy may be the art of lying for one's country, but Mexican diplomacy requires taking that art to virtuosic heights. Mexican officials here and abroad are involved in a massive and almost daily interference in American sovereignty. The millions of illegal Mexican immigrants in this country are here thanks in part to Mexico's efforts to get them into the U.S. in violation of American law and to normalize their status once here in violation of the popular will. Mexican consulates are engineering a backdoor amnesty for their illegal migrants and trying to discredit American immigration enforcement – activities clearly beyond diplomatic bounds. Mexico's governing class is not content simply to unload the victims of its failed policies on the U.S., however. It also tries to ensure that migrants retain allegiance to La Patria, so as to preserve the $16 billion in remittances that they send to Mexico each year. Mexican leaders have thus tasked their nation's U.S. consulates with spreading Mexican culture into American schools and communities. Given the American public's swelling anger about illegal immigration, it's past time for Washington to tell Mexico to cease interfering and for the Bush administration to start enforcing the law....

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; diplomats; immigrantlist; immigration; mexico
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-43 next last
The Dallas Morning News opinion page generally leads with a debate between a strident leftist and a mild-mannered centrist. Today, they put the debate on page 6 and led with this piece on immigration. The original source of the article is at http://www.city-journal.org/html/15_4_mexico.html

I haven't checked to see how the article changed.

1 posted on 12/04/2005 12:47:07 PM PST by nonomous
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: nonomous

Hell to the Chief I mean hail (sarc)


2 posted on 12/04/2005 1:04:34 PM PST by Sterco
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nonomous
Heather Honey's article doesn't hold water if you look at stats on where the illegals come from.

There must be a conspiricy amongst numerous govts.

3 posted on 12/04/2005 1:08:52 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nonomous

Well, when President Bush's Ambassador to Mexico marries the Corona Beer Baroness A14; whose side do you think he is on?

If it was anyone else that was appointed - they would have been forced to resign when they married into money of the country they are ambassador to- big ethical conflict, and of course there are federal laws being broken.

Definitely not the side of US Taxpayers and Citizens.

No demands for reciprocity from Mexico - at all.
No demands for Mexico to clean house from corruption.
No demands for the security of US citizens on the border.
No demands for Mexico to become capitalist or change their socialist ways, so their citizens can improve their lives at home, instead of illegally coming here.

Pesos for the RNC and RINOS.


4 posted on 12/04/2005 1:10:44 PM PST by axes_of_weezles (mainstream extremist (Ha))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nonomous
With all the money illegals send back to Mexico, if I were the Mexican government, I'd give each person, upon his 18th birthday:
- Forged Documents ( green card, matricular etc....)
- $5000.00 in seed money
- Instructions on how\where\when to cross.
then frog march 'em, en mass, to demarcation points.
5 posted on 12/04/2005 1:22:15 PM PST by stylin19a
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ben Ficklin

Can you refute her premise, with facts, Ben?

I doubt it.


6 posted on 12/04/2005 1:27:34 PM PST by axes_of_weezles
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: axes_of_weezles

Definitely not the side of US Taxpayers and Citizens.

No demands for reciprocity from Mexico - at all.
No demands for Mexico to clean house from corruption.
No demands for the security of US citizens on the border.
No demands for Mexico to become capitalist or change their socialist ways, so their citizens can improve their lives at home, instead of illegally coming here.

Pesos for the RNC and RINOS.
-----
Exactly right -- and is it not GROSS HYPOCRISY when GWB bashes that Communist moron in Venezuela, Chavez, for being what he is, but GIVES A FREE PASS to one of the most CORRUPT GOVERNMENTS on the American continent.

Tell me Washington has the interests of the American citizen as a top priority, and I will show you a liar that makes Clinton look like a sweet little Boy Scout!!!


7 posted on 12/04/2005 1:40:19 PM PST by EagleUSA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: axes_of_weezles
Yesterday's OC Register carried the following in Nation/World section:

Mexico predicting emigration growth

MEXICO CITY The number of Mexicans leaving their country – almost all for the United States – has reached 400,000 per year and will continue to grow for several more years, Elena Zuniga, head of Mexico’s National Population Council, said Friday.

For several more years? You mean like until Jorge is out of office?

8 posted on 12/04/2005 1:41:11 PM PST by LNewman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: axes_of_weezles
Mexico- 55%
South America-20%
Rest of the world-25%

One would have to wonder why the adjoining country, seperated by only a meager river or a falling down barb wire fence can account for only 55%. You would think it would be 95%.

9 posted on 12/04/2005 1:48:54 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: nonomous

the author is kidding and the mexican government has no desire to not continue breaking international law, American law, state and federal law of a soverign nation named America, but of course then there is our politicians. You guys remember them, the number 2 reason that there is more than 1 reason.

I forget the rest.....
besides when and if there is already a number 2, and remember just how bad and smelly that is............
and think about something worse, and then you realize there is more than this planet's share of number 1 going on and remember where you get your water......

Good luck to us all......


10 posted on 12/04/2005 1:52:12 PM PST by no-to-illegals
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ben Ficklin
Pew Hispanic Center: http://pewhispanic.org/files/reports/46.pdf

Unauthorized Are Largely Latin American

Other Latin America -- 24% 2.5 million

Africa & Other -- 4%

Europe &Canada -- 6%

0.6 million

Asia -- 9% 1.0 million

Mexico -- 57%

5.9 million

11 posted on 12/04/2005 2:06:59 PM PST by axes_of_weezles
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: axes_of_weezles

Excuse me, change 55 to 57. BFD


12 posted on 12/04/2005 2:11:47 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Ben Ficklin

These numbers are low. 10 Million is way low; real numbers may be up to 30 Million.

That would put it way above 60%


13 posted on 12/04/2005 2:17:03 PM PST by axes_of_weezles
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: axes_of_weezles
Well, if there are 30 million illegals, it is going to be 3 times more difficult to deport them.

If there are 10 million: If we put 60 on a bus and sent 60 busloads per day, it would take about 7 years and 7 months to deport them.

If there are 30 million, it would take close to 22 years to deport them.

14 posted on 12/04/2005 2:41:09 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Ben Ficklin

Pack 'em on trains and drop 'em off at the border, under armed guard, just like in the 30's. How many can you get in a cattle car?


15 posted on 12/04/2005 2:49:29 PM PST by john drake (roman military maxim: "oderint dum metuant, i.e., let them hate, as long as they fear")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Ben Ficklin

I always find it laughable when someone says something is impossible.....
Heck it was impossible to go to the moon....
It was impossible for some people to be elected to lead in this nation too....but there they are sitting in Congress making the bulk of us unset....I know we should get over it... well maybe so... but we can complain about I guess...
but I know....we shouldn't complain when we see the gorilla, elephant, jackass, or whatever animal one keeps in their living room, trying to hide it and keep it out of site and then saying this situation is impossible....
sorry.....I don't buy that and thank God most Americans don't buy that either or we never would have won WWII, the cold war....yea we lost Vietnam, but dang it you can't blame that one on the military, even though perhap not you but others would care to try.....

Impossible....I don't think so.


16 posted on 12/04/2005 2:50:27 PM PST by no-to-illegals
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: nonomous

At some point there will have to be a lawsuit filed in the supreme court, due to the disenfranchised voters that will exist in the south west. All illegal immigrants will be given voting right is the US sooner or later, the way things are going, and they will also retain their citizenship to Mexico by design, so they will be allowed to vote in both US and Mexican elections.

Since, for all argument purposes, it is both the government of Mexico and the US in agreement (under the table) who are governing the citizens of the southwest. Therefore, the legal US citizen with no vote or say in the Mexican party, will be disenfranchised (and one could argue even now) .

Remember:

1776--- Taxation without representation! That was the battle cry of the 13 colonies in America who were forced to pay taxes to England's King George III with no representation

1962--- The Supreme Court ruled that the denial of equal representation (districts equal in population size) was a violation of the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment


17 posted on 12/04/2005 3:04:23 PM PST by seastay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: john drake
You are talking about Operation Wetback. Everybody thinks that OW was a great thing, but, in realty, it set up a situation that makes illegal immigration worse today.

When that large number of illegals were dumped at the border, it caused a lot social problems, crime and such. The cross border local govts conceived of the idea locating factorys at the border and allowing the goods to move back and forth without tariffs. This would give jobs to all the labor there. The Maquilladoras were born.

All these years later and the Mexico's northern border is the industrial area of the country. This causes many Mexicans to head north to work at the Maqs. If they can't get a job, they just keep heading north.

BTW, when you send the cattle cars to the border, will you also be sending the Hondurans, asians, africans, and eastern european prostitutes?

18 posted on 12/04/2005 3:08:52 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: no-to-illegals

Since I did the work to figure out how many buslaods it would take and how long it would take, the least you could do is figure out how many holding pens we will need.


19 posted on 12/04/2005 3:11:28 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: seastay

the problem is America isn't going to convey citizenship and citizenship rights to persons who entered the country illegally...
one can beg and plead for such an occurrance but I seriously doubt Americans are that stupid...
if you prove me wrong, then so be it....but count on a fight every step of the way from Americans who are not about to surrender our nation to persons illegally in the country.

If this happens I'll be the first to say I was wrong.


20 posted on 12/04/2005 3:15:35 PM PST by no-to-illegals
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-43 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson