Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 4 December 2005

Various big media television networks ^ | 4 December 2005 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

p>The Talk Shows

Sunday, December 4th, 2005

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Stephen Hadley, President Bush's national security adviser; Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif.; Douglas Owsley, division head for physical anthropology at the Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of Natural History.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.; Thomas Kean, chairman, and Lee Hamilton, vice chairman, of the Sept. 11 investigative commission.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa.; Hadley; New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Hadley; Sens. Joseph Biden, D-Del., and Richard Lugar, R-Ind.; Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari.

[snugs]

I am surprised I thought he would be "saddened" that the US had resorted to such tactics because that diluted the value of the story. I am pleased and surprised he has shown backbone there. Though my previous comment about Vietnam might have a bearing.

[Capn TrVth]

Notice how our soldiers are "kids", and our 14 year old daughters are "women", when they want an abortion w/o parental notice? God protect us from the commie-vampire press.

When I hear peacenicks reading off the casualty count in a mocking tone, saying stuff like "2,000 of our kids died for Bush's lies." I am quick to point out that the 1,500,000th abortion is usually carried out early in december, and that another 100,000 will take place before New Years. -So I remind them to use the correct figures when they talk about our "Children dying".

If I really want to wind them up, I say: "But on a cheerier note, we just executed our 1,000th Criminal.

[cardinal4]

Gorelick was the only one who got A D info and she prevented the other committee members from getting that info.]

Thats what I have always believed, too. Someone needs to sit her butt down, under oath, and ask how many Sandy Berger moments she has had..

[Peach]

You have tickets for the Skins????? I almost fainted. They are one of the most coveted tickets. We're Skin fans. Huge. Used to have the jerseys, socks, give parties, etc. Have fun!

[FreedomNeocon]

Whooo.. glad Billy Kristol is there for that panel discussion on the 'planted' stories in the Iraqi press.

The sophistry is agonizing. On the same day Poloci and Murtha are on two separate 'newstalk' shows, after a week of newspaper stories (and I'm sure articles in mags like time and newsweek)... ALL on their little planed 'planted' story in American media. Yet thats fine... because the 'payment' is political points, advantage.

Yet in Iraq, we are fighting a WAR... people are dying, and these talking heads and senators and FECKLESS Mcclelan acting shocked that we paid to get truthful, factual information about reconstruction, schools, water, electricity, roads, in local papers.

UN-FREAKING-REAL!

[snugs]

True

[snugs]

Unbelieveable.

[Morgan in Denver]

I thought Kean did ask for Able Danger information but was told there was nothing there and he let it go. Is that right?

[Peach]

I guess Osama was just gossiping with Saddam about what was coming to NYC and Washington.

This was in the Iraq run newspaper:

Less than two months before 9/11/01, the state-controlled Iraqi newspaper “Al-Nasiriya” carried a column headlined, “American, an Obsession called Osama Bin Ladin.” (July 21, 2001)

In the piece, Baath Party writer Naeem Abd Muhalhal predicted that bin Laden would attack the US “with the seriousness of the Bedouin of the desert about the way he will try to bomb the Pentagon after he destroys the White House.”

The same state-approved column also insisted that bin Laden “will strike America on the arm that is already hurting,” and that the US “will curse the memory of Frank Sinatra every time he hears his songs” – an apparent reference to the Sinatra classic, “New York, New York”.
March 28, 2004, NewsMax
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1106657/posts?page=1

[Morgan in Denver]

Ut-oh. Good luck. (Said by someone who needs a new keyboard himself.)

[BonnieJ]

Is anyone talking about Rove and the CIA leak non-story today?

[cardinal4]

They were easy to come by out here, the Rams arent having the best season. But living is STL has never diminshed my love for the Redskins. Im excited as hell to go, as I have never seen them away from RFK or Landover..

[MEG33]

Now..Juan blah blah.

Brit says the paying to put TRUTHFUL stories in the Iraqi press shows that it is hard to to fight the war on two fronts.."Free Press more important then getting the truth out if one has to pay the paper,perception in Washington and public is the problem..
Notes there were supposed be a notice like you put on advertisements..Kristol thinks it was fine if that was the only way to get it out...says that kind of thing normal in that part of the world.
Consensus..lots of cluck clucking, investigation, pontificating..(My guess..probably will not allow it unless firmly labelled as paid for and quadruple checked for accuracy)

[chiller]

Timmy asks if that isn't the President's fault.

Russert reaches for this no matter whom he's interviewing. He asked the question 3 times this morning, on three separate subjects. Your Bush hatred is spilling over, Timmy.

[stocksthatgoup]

"Played Cheney's thoughts that the insurgents were in their death throes and tried to get Hadley to say it was a mistake. " The move to soft target by terrorists was a sign of terrorists in their death throes in the Iraqi theater. Watching a someone spit up blood and convulse is never a pleasant experience. But in this case, we can make an exception.

[snugs]

Exactly however good training we may have been able to provide now there is not the historic institutes behind that we in Britain and you in America have.

[A.Hun]

Here is a bit more:

http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/worldopinionroundup/2005/10/about_that_poll.html

Maysan Province is apparently a hot bed of anti-British sentiment.

[chiller]

Re: Russert trying desparately trying to blame any and all things on the President; Perhaps he's hoping he can eliminate Bush before Bush eliminates him when he's exposed as culpable in the CIA case.

He knows its coming and he'll be made to look partisan. I see Russert resigning this position in shame within 18 months.

[maggief]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1506870/posts

Iraqi Factions Want U.S. Forces to Remain, Levin (D) Says
LAT ^ | Oct. 21, 2005 | Tyler Marshall

Posted on 10/21/2005 4:34:37 PM CDT by FairOpinion

Carl Levin, a leading congressional Democrat, said today that the United States' continued military presence in Iraq should be linked to greater political unity among the country's deeply divided Shiite, Sunni and Kurdish factions.

The Michigan senator, who is the ranking Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee and a frequent visitor to Iraq, said that one of the few points all three main Iraqi ethnic and sectarian groups agree on is that each wants American forces to remain. The administration should use that reality as leverage to force political compromise, Levin said.

[snugs]

I meant it sarcastically and yes I agree Rummy is far smarter