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Ten Marines killed in Iraq bombing. Details to come...
MSNBC ^ | 12/02/2005 | MSNBC

Posted on 12/02/2005 8:18:00 AM PST by Smogger

Ten Marines killed in Iraq bombing. Details to come...

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fallen; fallujah; ied; irag; iraq; marines; oif
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To: Smogger

I would not tell her until I absolutely HAD to tell her.


161 posted on 12/02/2005 11:09:29 AM PST by Muzzle_em (I'm an island awash in a sea of stupidity)
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To: lugsoul

Many hateful people on the Left live everyday to see our troops getting killed but they will not mention it publicly. They think that the more troops getting killed in Iraq the more it will be a biggger problem for President Bush and the Republicans and hence the better are their chances to get back into power. They are fatally mistaken.


162 posted on 12/02/2005 11:10:14 AM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

"I can hear the jubilation over at DU right now. "


I just perused this "10 Marines killed" thread in DU. Saw lots of predictable anger at Bush, but absolutely nothing in the form of happiness or 'jubilation'.


163 posted on 12/02/2005 11:11:20 AM PST by Blzbba (For a man who does not know to which port he is sailing, no wind is favorable - Seneca)
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To: Kerretarded

"Go read one or two DU threads that get started about this news."


I did - no happiness there. Just anger at Bush and sorrow for victims and their families.


164 posted on 12/02/2005 11:12:11 AM PST by Blzbba (For a man who does not know to which port he is sailing, no wind is favorable - Seneca)
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To: Gone GF

Believe me, if they knew the troops were Republicans, they would be making with the glee.


165 posted on 12/02/2005 11:13:22 AM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: jmc1969
As long as we have President Bush as our leader and Commander in Chief I will not get that concerned. The Congress will not dare cut political funds for the troops even if (huge if) it will be controlled by democrats, because at least 25% of democrats will not do it and all Republicans will not do it. The democrats can never get a majoirty to cut funds for the war even if (huge if again) they win next year.
166 posted on 12/02/2005 11:16:37 AM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: Smogger
I know that people aren't going to want to hear this, but this is twice now that a single IED attack has killed 10+ Marines (the last in August killed the 14 from Ohio). Tactically there has to be a lesson learned: stop patrolling in ways that concentrate your forces and allow the enemy the opportunity to inflict high numbers of casualties.

My unit, 2/278th RCT, returned from Iraq in October-we were only about a 2 hour drive from Fallujah. Our TTPs called for patrolling in Hummers and using tracks as fire support on missions. That way if one vehicle was destroyed the casualties were minimized. I wonder why this keeps happening to USMC units and I don't see any reason why it should continue.

167 posted on 12/02/2005 11:16:46 AM PST by 91B (God made man, Sam Colt made men equal.)
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To: Blzbba

Read my post # 78.


168 posted on 12/02/2005 11:18:30 AM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: jmc1969

I agree with you about Americans patrolling. I'm no military expert but its stupid for them to act like cops. Why not just keep them at their barracks and call them for serious fighting.


169 posted on 12/02/2005 11:21:38 AM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: Smogger
Every time I read these headlines, a piece of my heart is ripped off.

I'm praying for the parents, spouses and children who will have a lousy Christmas.

May God take these brave men's souls into his bosom, and may His peace that surpasses any understanding cover these heroes' families.

170 posted on 12/02/2005 11:24:48 AM PST by george wythe
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To: jmc1969
The public is poll wise where it was in 1970 when it came to Vietnam. I listen to a retired general a year ago give a speech about Iraq and in the question and answer session he was asked how many deaths the US public could take before the polls dropped so much that Congress forced the troops to come home. He said the number was about 3,000 and at that time I thought he was right and to this day I think he was right.

Iraq is not Vietnam, no matter how much the Left and the MSM wants to make it so. The people we are fighting in Iraq are the very same folks who hit the WTC twice, our embassies in east Africa (the casualty figure in Nairobi was over 5,000 killed or wounded), and the USS Cole. They also formally declared war against us in 1996. More people were killed on 9/11 than at Pearl Harbor. If you want an analogy, then that is it, not Vietnam.

It can't be said enough. The war in Iraq and Afghanistan are part of the WOT. Paraphrasing Joe Louis, "We can run, but we can't hide." Leaving Iraq without winning is not an option.

171 posted on 12/02/2005 11:27:20 AM PST by kabar
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To: sarasota

I'm a proud Marine mom, and I'm pretty tough too, but wept upon hearing the news about our Marines. My son just returned from Iraq,and I remember how many sleepless nights I had this past spring and summer, not knowing where he was other than near the Syrian border. Also, he is based out of Camp LeJeune,N.C.where these brave soldiers are from, and you know - it's hard to find the words to express your sorrow to their loved ones, because I could be walking in their shoes.....I just pray a lot!!! I try and keep in touch with the "gold star" families I have met,even if it's just a hi, I'm thinking of you, do you need anything? I will always have "steadfast love" for my country,and most of all our soldiers, because without their sacrifices, we wouldn't have freedom, let alone a country!!Semper Fi Blessings!!!


172 posted on 12/02/2005 11:29:33 AM PST by 911angelady
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To: Smogger
The Liberal media should be banned from reporting on military combat deaths due to a conflict of interest. They report it alright but what they're really saying is "Look, 10 more dead in Bush's War for oil". The Liberal MSM is fully vested in our defeat and cannot be trusted.

I don't give them the satisfaction, I refuse to watch. These soldiers payed the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom and I thank them from the bottom of my heart and I weep for their families.

The MSM does not believe in our fight against terrorism and does nothing to rally the American spirit in the face of terror yet they're more than comfortable aiding and abetting our enemies, and wish our destruction because they hate America.

The MSM is nothing more than the media arm for the DNC and its supporters. It is the disgusting side of the American population which is blind and ignorant to reality of WWIII and dares to encourage our enemy.

There is no walking away from this war, either you fight or you die, no middle. Our enemy isn't interested in peace as long as we exist.
173 posted on 12/02/2005 11:34:28 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: areafiftyone
The only question I would ask at the outset if I was in charge. Why is Falluja still standing? Why do we have to keep on re-taking ground? Why are we fighting hand-to-hand while playing into the enemy's plan? When is the commander going to be replaced? And, GWB, what are you going to do about it?
174 posted on 12/02/2005 11:35:14 AM PST by Final Authority
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To: kabar

I agree with out when it comes to Iraq being a vital part of the War on Terror.

But, I never talked about leaving Iraq without winning.

I just don't believe US troops need to be the cops of Iraq anymore. We can fight off the insurgent in offensives and when the insurgents try attacking somewhere. And, we can concentrate on training Iraq troops. But, we don't need to be driving humvees around Baghdad where there is hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who would be happy to do it.


175 posted on 12/02/2005 11:36:14 AM PST by jmc1969
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To: Smogger

THE MSM DEAD FAILURE REPORT: 10 DEAD MARINES.

MSM REACTION: HOORAY. BREAK OUT THE CHAMPAIGN AT THE MSM.

I wonder if any of these 'objective' reporters know what this unit has accomplished in the last three months?

MSM REACTION: PHEW, WE DON'T HAVE TO REPORT THE ECONOMIC NEWS. PUT THE DEAD SOLDIERS AT THE FRONT OF THE LINE, BECAUSE SOLDIERS IN IRAQ ONLY 'DIE' OR 'SCREW UP'.


176 posted on 12/02/2005 11:39:26 AM PST by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: jmc1969
I just don't believe US troops need to be the cops of Iraq anymore. We can fight off the insurgent in offensives and when the insurgents try attacking somewhere. And, we can concentrate on training Iraq troops. But, we don't need to be driving humvees around Baghdad where there is hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who would be happy to do it.

You aren't running the war, our military is. I trust their judgment. They know the situation on the ground much better than you or I do. The Iraqis are taking an ever increasing burden of the fighting as they are trained to do so. That is the plan and the strategy for victory and our eventual departure. I don't understand why that is so difficult to comprehend.

177 posted on 12/02/2005 11:41:41 AM PST by kabar
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To: Blzbba

What you are reading is the initial "instinct" of a human being...after the idiots at DU have time to get with their chums...and listen to Air Amerika for a day...

by tomorrow, I bet there will be some posts saying that these Marines dying yesterday, will HELP...especially next week, when Congress is back in town..

Remember...the very last act of Congress before the two week Thanksgiving break was that 403-3 vote against withdrawing from Iraq...and the dems have been seething since then...it will come out...it always does, sadly.


178 posted on 12/02/2005 11:51:54 AM PST by Txsleuth (9/11NEVER FORGET-NEVER SURRENDER, Sam Johnson, a REAL hero!)
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To: Smogger
My brother just joined the Marines Reserves but he is afraid to tell my mother, who is going to freak.

If you Mom has a computer send her over to some of the Marine Mom online support groups. Moms can complain to each other and not make their sons and daughters feel bad. They really do help. She may have her down moments over the whole thing but she will be OK. She will be proud in the long run.

179 posted on 12/02/2005 11:52:31 AM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: 91B

I don't know if this explains things for you or not..but I heard within the last hour on Fox, that these Marines were investigating a factory...and they were in a courtyard by the factory...

Does that make more sense than a close line of troops walking on the side of a road???


180 posted on 12/02/2005 11:53:41 AM PST by Txsleuth (9/11NEVER FORGET-NEVER SURRENDER, Sam Johnson, a REAL hero!)
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