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Israel has proven that border fences can be effective. The open borders lobby should stop lying about them
Israel's multiple fence, border fence system. This fence is designed to succeed!! Sensors, surveillance cameras, lots of barbed wire, ditches to stop vehicles from ramming through it, paved access roads for fast armed response etc etc.
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That is exactly what our Texacano-Washingtonio El Presidente Jorge Arbusto's proposal amounts to ~ bait!
For a long time I bought the "they do work others will not do" line. Then my kids became teenagers looking for work.
There is not much to be found. Mexicans do it cheaper, for cash, no benefits. Why hire a teenaged kid?
Construction? Yeah, right. Unless they are willing to stand on the main streets in what I call our barrios, forget it. No teenaged American need apply.
Landscaping? Not
Stockboy at the grocery store? Not
They drive down the wages in larger businesses.
We educate illegals.
We provide free medical care.
If needed, we feed them.
Unless we order in numbers, 9 times out of 10 "I'll have an Egg McMuffin" can mean anything from A Sausage Biscuit to a Quarter Pounder with Cheese.
And I am pissed to no end when faced with the reality that our government overlooks the fact that they are here because they broke the law. You know, I know, we all damned well know the government does not look the other way when applying the law to citizens.
Whatever happened to equal protection under the law?
Many of these illegals congregate every day all across the country to get work. And everyday local contractors come around to pick them up. Why not start taking names of contractors off their trucks or license plates. This would be followed up with a warning letter containing a copy of the law and informining them their hiring of potential illegals has been noted.?
Clinton and the DemocRats think we're stupid, too. Not a good place for the White House. We're all over this.
Looks like Lowry is the one taking the boob bait, hook, line, and sinker.
Hmm, there is the anynomous source, like I said Lowry is taking the boob bait from Time.
It's so funny watching you guys take the boob bait from Time and get played like a violin by Time magazine, over and over and over and over again.
Unfortunately for this strategy, conservatives aren't nearly as stupid as the White House political shop apparently thinks they are.On this issue, the WH is the MSM and the conservatives are the bloggers.
As soon as a terrorist attack is carried out in this country by someone who snuck over the border, the Bush Administration will be finished.
In regards to the increasing lawlessness in northern Mexico that is spilling over into our country (think Pancho Villa), we need to let Mexico that either they put an end to it or the US Army will (think General "Blackjack" Pershing).
Sounds like the same all-or-none mentality that the "liberals" have made themselves so obnoxious with.
I guess the "w" word is considered a four letter word by this admin.
I know this is going to get me flamed, but have you guys seen the WAY the Mexicans work? Generally, from my observation, they have a work ethic that is unimpeachable. I think it's still possible for a hard working teen to get a job in fast food, etc., but as soon as he starts complaining about coming in early or needing time off to go to Spring Break, Pedro, with his 4 kids to feed, will be right there. Everyday. All day.
Look, I don't have a solution. But we have to face the fact that the values of some American workers add to this perfect storm of cheap labor, Mexican poverty, and porous borders.
Tammy Bruce had a great line, "Bush's plan is the Harriet Miers Immigration policy and we have to correct him on this, too."
Last I knew a person could emigrate from America, but I suppose in the globalist radical's limited imagination that is a scenarion best not thought of.
Insincerity in the President's position, if indeed he is trying to placate his base rather than close the borders will result in him ending up right where the Dimocrats want him.
It does us NO good when our side spends all it's time doing the Democrat Party's PR work for them. QUIT whining. Frankly the "Conservative" pundits seem stuck on stupid. They are so busy acting as the Dinasour Media's echo chamber that they no longer are on our side. Nice work guys. Way to gut any hope of getting ANY thing done.
His "proposal" is Bush-it.
It's the same pig with a different shade of the same color lipstick.
Now, we just need to beware the President's bait and switch he's going to try to pull next year. And we need to keep the pressure on.
The National Review reads more like the New York Times every time I read it.
"A Republican close to the White House has told Time how Bush wants to"
This line does not belong in an article writen by any reputible journalist. However, as we say in the Miers nomination debacle, the editors at the National Review appear to be getting their guidelines from the New York Times these days.
An unnamed source, with an unknown relationship to the subject, told a third party something? The only purpose of such garbage is to spread gossip or to try and lend credibility to a story that doesn't have a credible source. It's the kind of writing that belongs in tabloids.
The author should be ashamed for using such techniques, and the editor should be ashamed for letting this be published by the National Review.
As for the content of the article, it's sensationalism that's only likely to make it considerably harder to pass any kind of immigration reform.
Let me make this simple for Mr. Lowery. Our unemployment levels are low.
We currently have a large number of illegal immigrants working in this country in legal and productive industries.
This number of employeed illegal aliens considerably exceeds the number of unemployed workers.
If we manage to accomplish reform in our immigration enforcement, but don't at the same time increase legal immigration, it's going to have a very serious, advarse effect on our economy.
Unless you think that rising inflation while the economy shrinks do to a shortage of labor is a good idea, a comprehensive approach is the only rational approach to immigration.
We MUST address both illegal immigration and legal immigration at the same time.
This is not a simple task, and there are many different special interest groups pulling in different directions.
Making it sound like the president has some devious plan isn't going to help matters. It definately isn't addressing the problems by addressing the facts, it's pulling the typical liberal tactic of emotionalizing the issue.
We need a program that includes an increase of legal immigration as goals in reducing illegal immigration are met. That's going to be difficult because the numbers are all estimations and everyone is going to estimate things differently.
People who keep calling this an amnesty program without offering solutions that address real labor needs are part of the problem.
There is still considerable leeway in how an increase in legal immigration could be handled.
Do we allow people who are in the country illegally to apply? My answer would be a resounding no. Even the suggestion of such would cause a surge in illegal immigration. We have a right and a duty to be selective in who we admit to work in our country.
Bush has remained consistent in his approach to this, his initial program would have allowed illegal immigrants to apply from within the US. However, he has not taken a hard stance on that and I highly doubt he would veto legislation over that. Therefore it's up to congress, since they're the ones that make laws, not the president.
Do we allow people who have been deported to apply for legal immigration?
This one is a bit harder for me. They are criminals, but they are basicly laws that are enforced about as stricty as speeding. They come from countries where law enforcement is arbitrary. It's hard to respect laws that are obviously not enforced.
Because of this I would go with a bit of a comprimise. I'd suggest that illegal aliens have 60 days after the law goes into effect to turn themselves in and be deported. If they do so they would be allowed to apply for the guest worker program. If they are apprehended during that sixty days, but do not fight deportation, they could possibly be treated the same as if they had turned themselves in. They would be deported, but not barred from reentry.
After that 60 days if they are caught in our country illegally, they should be barred from reentering the country for not less than 5 years.
If they committed crimes while they were in our country they should also be barred from entry. If they are unable to support themselves, they should be deported. The federal government should stipulate that illegal aliens or those here on work visas of any kind should not receive benefits from federally funded social programs. They pay their own way while they are here, or they get sent home.
The exception to this is that we should provide needed emergency medical care if they are unable to pay for it. However, if they cannot pay for it they should be deported after the necessary care is provided.
I have heard suggestions that all immigrants should be required to attain some level of health insurance to work in our country, I think that is an exellent idea. It could be provided by the companies that employ them, by thier home country's government, or they could pay for it themselves.
The problem of illegal immigration is not goingt o be solved through rhetoric about amnesty. If you require people to apply from their home countries, how are you offering illegal aliens amnesty? Yet that's exactly how Senator Cornyn's plan was described.
These people are not helping fix this problem. Fixing the problem can only be done by dealing with the facts, not by stirring up emotion with half truths.
