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To: paltz
"McCain said. "Every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine."

I saw this goofy Rino on TV the other day promoting his "No Torture" bill saying that torture does NOT work.

Citizens of Arizona... PLEASE vote this baboon out.

6 posted on 11/29/2005 8:00:57 AM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: GregoTX
I've never believed the line that "torture doesn't work". If I self-examine myself, I know exactly what I would do if somebody hooked a car battery to my testicles; they would quickly hear anything they wanted to hear.

I imagine that a professional intelligence officer can be trained how to resist torture quite effectively. And I imagine that our military gets some lite flavor of similar training. But I doubt the jihadists we are up against have received any such training. They maybe fanatics and that counts for something but I believe their culture also predisposes them to breaking under torture. I think all this "torture does not work stuff" is just a PC argument that really does not stand-up to real world scrutiny.

Despite whether or not torture is effective or not, the question of whether it is something America can morally tolerate is a different issue. Personally, I believe it depends on the enemy (perhaps it is OK to torture terrorists but not enemy soldiers in compliance with Geneva conventions) and the circumstances (ticking bomb scenario). I don't think we should tie the President's hands and I think we should rely on our Democratic system to put reasonably morally fit people into the Presidency.

46 posted on 11/29/2005 8:44:18 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: GregoTX
Citizens of Arizona... PLEASE vote this baboon out.

Some of us tried last year but, unfortunately, not nearly enough. We're stuck with him for awhile.

54 posted on 11/29/2005 9:01:37 AM PST by uglybiker (nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh BAT MAN!!)
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To: GregoTX
We will, this is incredible, he is admitting he was broken in jail and squealed like a pig.
I would have died trying to escape
56 posted on 11/29/2005 9:38:00 AM PST by Roverman2K
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