Posted on 11/29/2005 5:25:04 AM PST by conservativecorner
Yesterday, George W. Bush strode to a podium in Tucson, Arizona (I love Tucson!) and against a backdrop of law enforcement officers, announced his latest plan to crack down on illegal aliens. There was nothing in his speech we haven't heard before, and his new immigration policy is just as contradictory as the old one. Among the initiatives announced:
We should build more jail cells to hold illegal aliens. Good idea. The speeding up of deportations, a crackdown on fraudulent identity papers, and a hardening of the border with more surveillance. So far, so good. Then the nonsense started to flow. The president urged Congress to pass his guest-worker amnesty program and repeated the nonsense that the illegal aliens are here "to fill jobs that Americans will not do."
Same old, same old. It is impossible to stand there and say you're going to crack down on illegal immigration while at the same time say that you are going to reward people who broke our immigration laws. The president says it's not amnesty. Ok, now we've finally caught the president in a lie. OF COURSE it's amnesty! When you tell someone who has broken the law that you are not only going to ignore their illegal conduct, but you are actually going to reward them for it, then you have more than plain old garden variety amnesty, you have amnesty with perks!
As for the oft-repeated line that the illegal aliens fill jobs Americans won't, that's also a load. Companies may not be able to fill those jobs with Americans at the same low wages they pay Mexicans, but there are plenty of people in this country that would do the work at the right price. OK .. so the price of headless chickens, landscaping and construction might go up, but at least the people receiving those paychecks would be law-abiding residents of this country, most of whom would be citizens. There is something wrong with the idea of celebrating lower home prices when those lower prices are brought with disrespect for the laws of our country. It gets worse than that. We are threatening our very security by singing the praises of illegal aliens in our workforce. Just two weeks ago we were interviewing a Texas congressman who was telling us that U.S. intelligence agencies have knowledge that Al Qaeda terrorists have moved to Mexico, adopted Hispanic identities, learned the Spanish language, and then moved right into the United States across our porous borders.
George Bush failed to address the problem appropriately yesterday, but this isn't strictly a George Bush issue. There is absolutely no willingness on the part of either political party to crack down on illegal immigration. There are simply too many votes to be had in the Hispanic community. So as a result, our security as a nation is threatened and our cities and states are overrun with illegal aliens.
I'm sure representatives of Al-Qaeda are preparing to apply for their guest-worker permits as we speak.
As would, no doubt, many others!
I wondered how long it would take for you to play your version of the "race" card. No one here has any "animus" towards people named Jose or Maria unless Jose and Maria are criminally trespassing here as a result of breaking and entering our country. We also have animus towards Bill, Jeff, and Susan for committing the crime of hiring Jose and Maria and thereby putting Steve and Cindy out of work. You know this, but you won't let that get in the way of your attempts at misdirection. First it was trial lawyers, then corrupt union mentality, and now you are implying that immigration reform/border security advocates hate hispanic people. It isn't going to work.
Uh but niccy you soley focus on people seeking health care, instead of the people putting the people who wish to give health care out of business, the trial lawyers.
JMO you are like a liberal who excuses the murderer or rapist, instead of putting where the true onus should be, the perpertrator, and in the case of the health care mess, the onus is on the trial lawyers, whom you are silent about.
Now, for the eighth time: Why do you defend lawbreakers, Dane: Business owners who hire illegal aliens, and illegal aliens?
Illegal Aliens and EMTALA
NewsWithViews.com, March 23, 2005
Free medical care has degraded and closed some of America’s finest emergency medical facilities and caused hospital bankruptcies: 84 California hospital are closing their doors forever. Under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act of 1985 (EMTALA), any patient requesting emergency care must be screened and treated until stabilized for discharge or transfer, whether or not insured or “documented” (i.e., legally present in the United States). For example, a woman in labor must remain to deliver her child. Babies born to illegal aliens are called “Anchor Babies” for once they are born, like anchors dropped to keep boats safely in harbor, they pull their illegal alien parents and siblings into lucrative residency. The babies instantly qualify as citizens for welfare benefits, resulting in skyrocketing Medicaid costs and stipends under Supplemental Security Income and Disability Income. Cities such as Los Angeles with large illegal alien populations, high crime, and powerful immigrant gangs are losing their hospitals to the ravages of unreimbursed care under EMTALA. In Los Angeles, 95% of outstanding homicide warrants are for illegal aliens, likewise for 66% of fugitive felony warrants.
http://newswithviews.com/Cosman/madeline.htm
And if Steve and Cindy are collecting welfare, are they "out of work"?
Why does Dane use misdirection in her endless attempts to defend lawbreakers? Why does Dane ignore the carnage caused by criminal invaders and instead try to point fingers at unions and trial lawyers? Why does Dane demonstrate such willful ignorance to the topic of this thread?
Can the quislings find something else to be lame about?
Uh but they are part of the modern health care mess, which you blame solely on illegal immigrants.
Why do you wish to leave the trials lawyers and unions out of your arguement.
Boortz said on his radio show that we caught the President red-handed last night telling a lie when he said his plans are not an amnesty for the Illegals.
Boortz is correct of course. Bush lied. Tancredo '08.
Now, for the ninth AND FINAL TIME: Why do you defend lawbreakers, Dane: Business owners who hire illegal aliens, and illegal aliens?
" Why do you wish to leave the trials lawyers and unions out of your arguement."
Why do you constantly wish to change the subject when you are losing, senor quisling?
Wait, I guess the question contains the answer.
Boortz is correct of course. Bush lied. Tancredo '08
And boortz is also pro-abortion and gay marriage, glad to see that you are admitting that as a tancredo supporter you support those also.
Hey fool, go back and look at this post and this post as well as this one and this one and tell me how it is that trial lawyers are to blame for the problems and situations described in each post.
Because that's all he has?
I'm not changing the subject, if you don't think trial lawyers and unions are part of the modern American health care mess, it is you who is being the quisling.
OH, BTW, you are free to post travis's tin foil gif's as your standard answer, actually I'm surprised they haven't been posted yet, I guess they are losing their "oomph" factor.
those leedle facts....just kinda hard to most folks to gloss over the way Dane does.
More moronic misdirection from Dane.
We're not talking about abortion, gay marriage, or Tom Tancredo here. Since you know you're being beaten bloody here on every worthless point you're making, you have to drop back and attack Neal Boortz' positions on other issues and make some lame ass connection with those positions and Tancredo. Stupid. Really, gallingly stupid. Boortz is talking about illegal aliens and President Bush's speech, not abortion, not gay marriage. Stick to the topic at hand and stop your retarded attempts at distraction.
You also pay for it in hospital expenses.
In many states, the law requires all hospitals to provide medical care to indigent patients. Illegal aliens work at minimum or below minimum wage jobs. They get no medical coverage.
When they get sick they show up in the hospital emergency room - even for disorders the average person goes to a personal doctor for.
The hospitals are forced to cover the mandated expense of their treatment by increasing costs to paying customers. This raises your medical insurance rates. Plus, if you have a real serious problem, you have to wait while some illegal is being treated for something he should have seen a practising physician for.
So we, the taxpayers are subsidizing the medical treatment for these people while their employers get fat and rich.
This is an outrageous exploitation of the American public.
In some hosiptals, the number of children born to illegal aliens exceeds the number born to American citizens and resident legal aliens.
Bush's treatment of this entire problem borders on the criminal.
JMO, you shouldn't really talk to yourself on an internet forum.
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