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At 30,000 feet down, where were the dinosaurs?
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | November 29, 2005 | Jerome Corsi

Posted on 11/29/2005 3:26:34 AM PST by ovrtaxt

At 30,000 feet down, where were the dinosaurs?


Posted: November 29, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

Developments in deep-drilling for natural gas present serious challenges to those who still maintain "Fossil-Fuel" theories as to the origin of complex hydrocarbon fuels.

The Western world's record for deep-well natural-gas exploration and production is held by the GHK Company in Oklahoma. From 1972 through 1974, the company engineered and drilled two Oklahoma natural-gas commercial wells at depths greater than 30,000 feet (approximately 5.7 miles) – the No. 1-27 Bertha Rogers well (total depth 31,441 feet) and the No. 1-28 E.R. Baden well, both located in the Anadarko Basin, and east-west trending basin in West-Central Oklahoma.

Since the company's founding in the mid-1980s, GHK reports drilling and operating 193 wells, the majority of which are below 15,000 feet, without experiencing a blowout. GHK's success ratio for all drilling operations, including wildcat exploratory drilling, from 1995 to 2005 has been 82 percent.

A study conducted by Mark Snead, Ph.D., the director of the Center for Applied Economic Research at the Spears School of Business at the University of Oklahoma (at Stillwater, Okla.), documents that commercially successful deep-well drilling for natural gas in Oklahoma has been proven beyond a doubt by experience in Oklahoma:

Oklahoma has long played an important role in the development of deep drilling. The first hole drilled below 30,000 feet for commercial production purposes was completed in Beckham County in 1972 ...

The Anadarko Basin has historically been one of the most prolific natural gas producing regions in the United States and is the location of most of the deep wells in Oklahoma. According to the U.S. Geological Survey, 20 percent of the holes drilled deeper than 15,000 feet prior to 1991 are located in the Anadarko Basin, exceeding the number of deep wells in all drilling regions in the U.S. other than the Gulf of Mexico in the period. Through 1998, 19 of the 52 existing ultra deep wells below 25,000 feet were drilled in the Anadarko Basin.

Through 2002, the Potential Gas Committee reports that a total of 1,221 producing deep wells were completed in Oklahoma at an average depth of 17,584 feet, with 775 of these wells currently active.

The success with deep-drilling of natural-gas resources has been experienced across the United States:

The overall success rate of deep wells has been remarkably good. In a sample of 20,715 deep wells drilled in the U.S. through December 1998, 11,522 (56 percent) are classified as producing gas and/or oil wells, with gas wells comprising nearly 75 percent of producing wells. Of the 1,676 wells exceeding 20,000 feet, 974 (58 percent) are producing wells of which 847 are gas wells.

Dr. Snead reported that important technological advances have facilitated the ultra-deep drilling of natural gas wells. The average time to reach a depth of 17,000 feet for two East Texas deep wells drilled in the same structure reduced from 170 days to 70 days in the 17 years between 1985 and 2002. Moreover, advances in computer technology have produced breakthroughs in reservoir modeling that "enable better estimates of the size and location of recoverable deposits."

Many "Peak-Production" theorists appear today to be ready to abandon the "Fossil-Fuel" theory of oil's origin, as long as they are yet able to argue that we are going to run out of hydrocarbon fuels in just a few years from now. Still, the common wisdom remains that natural gas, like oil, is a "fossil fuel." For those who have any doubt that the "Fossil-Fuel" theory is the politically correct version of the origin of natural gas, the Energy Information Agency's "Energy for Kids" page explains how millions of years ago the remains of plants and animals decayed into organic material that became trapped in rocks until pressure and heat changed some of this organic material into coal, oil and natural gas.

Realizing the potential for the deep-well drilling of natural gas, the U.S. Department of Energy's Office of Fossil Energy established a "Deep Trek" program to lower the cost and improve the efficiency of drilling commercially productive deep wells. "Deep Trek" maintains its "Office of Fossil Energy" bias despite describing deep-well natural-gas drilling as needing to penetrate rock structures that sound more like bedrock than sedimentary layers:

Tapping into this resource will be both technologically daunting and expensive. For wells deeper than 15,000 feet, as much as 50 percent of drilling costs can be spent in penetrating the last 10 percent of a well's depth. The rock is typically hot, hard, abrasive, and under extreme pressure. Often, in deeper wells, it is not uncommon for the drill bit to slow to only two to four feet per hour at operating costs of tens of thousands of dollars a day for a land rig and millions of dollars a day for deep offshore formations. And it is exceedingly difficult to control the precise trajectory of a well when the drill bit is nearly three miles below the surface.

In Japan, gas has been produced from granite at a depth of 4,300 meters (2.7 miles). Those who doubt that natural gas can be found in bedrock structures should visit the website of Teikoku Oil, a Japanese company that has developed drilling equipment specifically designed to explore for natural gas in and below bedrock levels.

Even those who might stretch to argue that even if no dinosaurs ever died in sedimentary rock that today lies 30,000 feet below the surface, might still argue that those levels contain some type of biological debris that has transformed into natural gas. That argument, a stretch at 30,000 feet down, is almost impossible to make for basement structure bedrock. Japan's Nagaoka and Niigata fields produce natural gas from bedrock that is volcanic in nature. What dinosaur debris could possibly be trapped in volcanic rock found at deep-earth levels?

Deep-earth natural gas strongly supports the theory that the origin of oil is abiotic, not organic in nature. Moreover, natural gas is being found abundantly at deep-earth levels around the world – so much so that the deep-earth discoveries of natural gas are increasing worldwide natural gas reserve estimates to the point where "Peak-Production" theories are being challenged as well. But that will have to be the subject of another column.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abiotic; deeplife; godsgravesglyphs; oil; peak; powerfromtheearth; thomasgold
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To: John Valentine

Didn't Elrond and Galadriel have one of those?

Seriously though, do you have any evidence of previously dry oil fields which started producing again? POst a link or something on the Silauain Ring too. Interesting!


21 posted on 11/29/2005 4:05:02 AM PST by ovrtaxt (The FAIRTAX. A powerplay for We The People.)
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To: ovrtaxt
The Western world's record for deep-well natural-gas exploration and production is held by the GHK Company in Oklahoma

As I type GHK Co. is drilling for natural gas about four city blocks away, driving property values to dizzing heights.

Retort that shale oil! :>)

22 posted on 11/29/2005 4:09:20 AM PST by Tazzer (Christians! Return to snake-handling!!)
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To: rockprof
"Just because you can find some natural gas in the basement rocks (the igneous and metamorphic rocks below the sedimentary bedrock) doesn't mean you'll find petroleum there as the article seems to imply."

I just wrote an article about the methane cycle associated with off shore methane hydrates on the tectonic margins.

It is part of the IODP research program. Methane is found in many environments unassociated with crude oil let alone sweet crude which is the most profitable form of oil.

Oil and Gas (Methane) occur together but methane occurs in environments independent of oil.

Assuming that methane occurrences and oil occurrences are contiguous is a profoundly flawed argument.

Dinosaurs have nothing to do with the formation of oil or methane.

Such a proposition is just another ID bait and switch substitution.
23 posted on 11/29/2005 4:11:42 AM PST by beaver fever
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To: ovrtaxt

bttt


24 posted on 11/29/2005 4:12:02 AM PST by CGVet58 (God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

ERF, your are willing to accept inorganic methane, but not oil? Given inorganic methane, time, and pressure (ie deep in the earth) you will have oil derived inorganically...ie inorganic oil.

Getting to CH4 inorganically is a much harder step than putting that CH4 under pressure and it forming longer hydro-carbon chains. That is what NGLs (natural gas liquids, like propane and butane) are...light oils (short chains)

And as you've established, inorganic CH4 is present. From there it is a very small, easy and probable step to inorganic oil.

This, of course, is not an argument that the primary or even substantial source of our crude is inorganic in origin, only that it is possible, and a whole 'nother set of unaddressed questions needs to be asked to determine organic and inorganic proportions.


25 posted on 11/29/2005 4:12:26 AM PST by blanknoone (When will Europe understand there is no one willing to accept their surrender?)
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To: Bender2
"few hundred million to a billion years ago certainly have had their remains taken down to 30,000 feet or more..."

Careful, Not much alive on ol'planet earth before 1/2 billion and not very much then!

No plants until much later. Still, tectonics could take it down but it happens over millions of years. My lawn dies in a few weeks if I don't water it. Plus the surface material is generally scraped off and only the heaviest crust is subsumed.

There is a LOT wrong with organic sources of hydrocarbon. Myself, I believe it to be primeordal and only contaminated with organic sources.

26 posted on 11/29/2005 4:15:34 AM PST by cb
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To: ovrtaxt

I don't think you can speak of dry fields producing again, but I have read about fields that have produced way in excess of their calculated capacity and seem to be recharging from lower reservoirs. I don't think anyone really knows.


27 posted on 11/29/2005 4:25:41 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: ovrtaxt

Those oil deposits way down below could be giant earthworms that turned to oil because of the heat and pressure:)


28 posted on 11/29/2005 4:30:35 AM PST by RTINSC (What, Me Worry?..My company offers French benefits...)
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To: John Valentine

Well, one thing is obvious- I am manifestly uneducated about this whole subject! But interested nonetheless.


29 posted on 11/29/2005 4:31:06 AM PST by ovrtaxt (The FAIRTAX. A powerplay for We The People.)
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To: prisoner6; zot

Geee, the dinosaur's didn't die for my chevy vega to have fuel? Yippeee


30 posted on 11/29/2005 4:36:42 AM PST by GreyFriar (3rd Armored Division -- Spearhead)
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To: John Valentine
Take CH4, methane, pressurize it and heat in in an oxygen free environment for a few huundred million years

Bingo....Titan proves the existence of massive amounts of CH4 in our solar system, and most likely, many others.

I vote for Methanol....tap the Bermuda Triangle (where we can only guess how much is below the surface).

Ahhh, nothin' like the smell of Methanol in the morning, especially at a dirt track.

31 posted on 11/29/2005 4:38:06 AM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: add925

Okay- we'll put you down in the 'Titanic Farting Cows Theory' column.

This debate just keeps getting more interesting!


32 posted on 11/29/2005 4:45:30 AM PST by ovrtaxt (The FAIRTAX. A powerplay for We The People.)
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To: cb
Well... to tell the truth, I think all the oil & gas comes from all the old Atlantean gas stations and gas plants that sank under the sea when the whole shebang went blooie!

Then when they were on the bottom of the sea they got dragged under the next plate...

33 posted on 11/29/2005 4:47:16 AM PST by Bender2 (Even dirty old robots need love!)
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To: SeeRushToldU_So

It's a proven scientific fact that the dinosaurs knew about the coming ice age in advance and tunneled down 30,000 feet to seek the warmth of the earth's core. They then carved out large caverns using their noses, tails and flippers. Unfortunately, they all died from suffocation when the ice covered the tunnel entrances.


34 posted on 11/29/2005 4:49:20 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: rockprof
This article is full of misconceptions about gas and oil formation.

To be more precise, the author of this article is an utter moron and somehow managed to write a piece more idiotic than his previous pathetic effort in WingNutDaily.

I still stand in awe of someone purporting to write about petroleum and natural gas without even the vaguest understanding of the theories he thinks he's attacking.

35 posted on 11/29/2005 4:54:46 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: ovrtaxt

The Spears School of Business is located at Oklahoma State University, not the University of Oklahoma, as mentioned in the article.


36 posted on 11/29/2005 5:03:22 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: ovrtaxt
Well, one thing is obvious- I am manifestly uneducated about this whole subject! But interested nonetheless.

Unfortunately for this subject you'll actually become MORE uneducated on it by reading WingNutDaily articles and basically all the posts about it on FR.

1) The accepted theory of Petroleum formation is that it's made out of ancient dead ocean and lake microscopic plankton (diatoms, algae primarily); there are no dead dinosaurs in oil.

2) There's immense amounts of evidence that 1) is true, including petroleum fields being chemically identical to diatoms in composition, etc.

3) The OVERWHELMING majority of petroleum geologists believe 1); there's been no sudden rush to belief in abiogenic oil by huge numbers of people IN THE FIELD despite claims to the contrary. THERE HAS been a huge increase in the fascination with abiogenic oil by clueless uneducated dilettantes, largely for political reasons.

4) Any organic materials of any kind can easily be buried to virtually any depth through tectonic processes and lots of time. If you reject plate tectonics, or believe the earth is 6,000 years old, you're basically beyond hope and you're impervious to reason.

5) Claims that all over the world many oil fields are mysteriously re-filling are flat-out false.

6) Natural Gas and Oil are quite different; Oil is far more complex.

37 posted on 11/29/2005 5:05:17 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: sauropod

mark


38 posted on 11/29/2005 5:07:00 AM PST by sauropod ("The love that dare not speak its' name has now become the love that won't shut the hell up.")
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To: add925

So lets all search the world for abiotic ethanol. Perhaps DeSoto was searching for such a spring and the legend was corrupted to a search for the fountain of youth.


39 posted on 11/29/2005 5:13:46 AM PST by carumba
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To: ovrtaxt
Okay- we'll put you down in the 'Titanic Farting Cows Theory' column.

Anytime we can make a fart useful, count me in! ;^)

40 posted on 11/29/2005 5:17:03 AM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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