Posted on 11/28/2005 5:04:53 PM PST by dj_animal_2000
Bosnia: Haven for Islamic radicals?
By Nicholas Wood International Herald Tribune
SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 27, 2005
SARAJEVO A police raid last month on an apartment near this city's airport uncovered evidence of an imminent suicide bombing, intensifying the fears of Western security services that Bosnia is becoming a haven for Islamic radicals.
The raid, which was carried out after an extensive surveillance operation by the Bosnian police and Western intelligence services, turned up an arsenal of weapons in the apartment, including suicide vests, about 30 kilograms, or 65 pounds, of exploding bullets and high explosive, and a machine pistol.
Investigators said they also found a videotape in which three men - at least two of them teenagers - are seen asking forgiveness from God for their "sacrifice," a recording made just hours before the raid. The two teenagers were arrested.
(Excerpt) Read more at iht.com ...
Never underestimate the willingness of the Soros fluffers to repeat old lies. It's all they have, you know.
I know the anti-Serb propaganda, bought and paid for with heroin money, was effective and deluded the Clintonistas, but the truth will come out, marky.
Just like your Muhammedan thugs will come out of Kosovo in due time.
Let's play a game...."SPOT THE MUDJAHADIN"
Murdering tens of thousands of Muslim Civilians? Now, I have no sympathy for those who were harboring terrorists or rebels, but much of this was ethnic cleansing, and I think that warrants intervention.
Well short of outright massacre of Innocent, law abiding Muslim Civilians, Im with ya. That Bosnian Army (pictured above) should be erased off the face of the Earth. You may argue you can't wage a war against Islamic Fundamentalism unless you fight all of its elements, and you may be right. However, there is a value to the lives of the innocent, and I personally do have a hard time bringing myself to accept the killing of women and children. I'd rather see Bosnia re-converted back to Orthodoxism, (Turks converted good Serbian peasants in the 14th and 15th Century in Bosnia to Sunni Islam) and Bosnia-Herzagovina split into three, the Croat part to join Croatia, the Serbian part to join Serbia, and the Bosnian-Muslim part to be its own wack-job country. Self-Determination.
This is neither the time nor the place for Gotovina, and pointing a finger at him does nothing to exculpate Serbia for it's actions in Bosnia nor change Serbia's present straits brought on by it's refusal to deal with those actions.
Beside being a racist Serb hater, you have no clue of American history.
-The fist country in the Balkans U.S. established diplomatic ties with was - Serbia. It was in 1883. Soon afterwards, Serbian investment came to America and American in Serbia.
-Habeas Corpus Act, the cornerstone of Anglo-Saxon law was established in 1679. Serbia's Tzar Dushan Codex had similar provision in - 1349, 330 years earlier
Stupidity can be remedied by reading. That's what libraries are for.
"Now I know how my father must have felt after serving 2 tours in Vietnam. Our intervention was questionable, but we should at least fight alongside those that had the balls to identify the Islam menace for what it was and take a stand against it. Maybe that would have prevented 300+ deaths on 9-11, but I still doubt that."
Here, here, Tribalnation. I agree with you 100%. And Greece, the only Nato/United Nations country who had the balls to take that stand was scolded by the Clintonistas. BTW the below article is taken from a Greek liberal dumas..I mean "journalist".
"The pro-Serbian stance taken by Athens shocked many who assumed that all members of NATO would follow the lead of the United States and the United Nations. Instead, Greece supported Serbia from the outbreak of war in the former Yugoslavia in 1991 through the NATO bombing and
occupation of Kosovo eight years later. Michas combines journalistic accounts with anecdotes and personal interviews to show a pattern of Greek support for Miloeviæ and Radovan Karadziæ that implicates Greek politicians from all parties, as well as the Greek Orthodox Church, the
Greek media, and ultimately the Greek people themselves."
So can anyone guess what town has a sign on the road leading into its village which reads.
'Be afraid of Allah.'
Also how was it that Bin Laden was issued a Bosnia-Herzegovina passport in 1993? Or how a number of suspected terrorists traveling the globe utilizing legally issued Bosnia-Herzegovina documents? Or why Bin Ladens name constantly crops up in regards to aid given to the Bosnian Muslims and Albanians in Kosovo, both financially (weapons procurement) and in training? Or why would the Bosnian Government let Mehrez Aodouni, another terrorist with close ties to Bin Laden, join the Bosnian Army which BTW helped him OPTAINE Bosnian citizenship and a passport.
And we CAN'T forget the premature detonation of an automobile bomb in Zenica that is widely speculated it was a "Thank You" gift from our friends the Muslims, oh wait I can't call them that now can I (sarcasm), the "Mujahadeen" to US NATO troops serving in Bosnia-Herzegovina as revenge for the life sentence given to Sheik Omah Abdel Rahman, the brain behind the World Trade Centre bombing in New York.
Oh yeah, and we CAN'T forget that little raid conducted by NATO forces on the training center of the Bosnian Muslim secret police (AID)...remember that little doozie? If memory serves me right there several arrests made of persons for preparing to conduct terrorist actions. Iranian instructors were teaching future terrorists from AID how to disguise bombs as childrens toys, dolls, and plastic ice cream cones.
Hey, how 'bout that terrorist who confessed to serving in Alija Izetbegovics Bosnian Muslim forces. You know the one who blew up the Al Khobar.
And lets not forget the assassination plot of Pope John Paul II which was going to be carried out in 1997 by a terrorist group which consisted of former mujahadeen from Bosnia-Herzegovina. Italian authorities discovered the assassination attempt in time and managed to arrest 14 members of the terrorist cell.
Sources - New York Times, Dani, Oslobodjenje.
"Last year, sources in Jordan say, the Mukhabarat, the intelligence service, alerted the C.I.A. to at least three plots by Bosnia-based Islamic terrorists to attack U.S. targets in Europe."
The NY Times/February 6, 2000
I forgot, who's side did the US take in the Balkan conflict again? How come we don't see any Serbs carrying terrorist attacks against us? Like THAT question needs to be answered. ;)
apro, your source is incorrect. NATO requires unanimity to act. As a NATO member, Greece had to agree to the various NATO actions in Bosnia and Kosovo or they couldn't have happened. In fact, right now, the Greeks have an infantry unit serving as part of NATO forces in Kosovo--they are organized as part of the American brigade headquartered at Camp Bondsteel.
... assumed that all members of NATO would follow the lead of the United States and the United Nations."
That is also incorrect. The United Nations did not "lead", endorse, or agree to the NATO bombing of Kosovo--a fact which is useful to throw in the face of liberals when they bring up lack of UN endorsement for our Iraq operation.
No?
Then your opinion really doesn't matter, does it.
Yeah, I can guess, its called hypocrisy. But then again dj_animal has put it very nicely as well:
"Soros fluffers"
And zagor-te-nej posted some very interesting links. BTW, I see you never did reply to this report posted by dj_animal:
"The Bosnian Islamic web site www.Islambosna.ba regularly posts news related to the Islamic world. Each piece of news on Muslim losses, or those about the US, Israeli or other forces seen to be in conflict with the Muslim population is followed by the text: "Fight them. Allah will punish and humiliate them by your hands and will help you against them and heal the chest of the believer".
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1159691/posts
"According to several reports, you met with Osama bin Laden or his chief deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri during the war. Is that true?"
"During and after the war I met with thousands of people coming from the Islamic world but I can remember the faces and names of only a few. Neither of the two you mentioned are among them. And if, by some chance, I have met them, then they could not have talked with me about terrorism."
-Izetbegovic Time Interview 2001
In other words he might have met with them but doesn't remebmer...hmmm riigghhtt. Isn't interesting how he didn't come right out and say "NO I didn't" but beat around the bush about it. You either DID meet with them or you DIDN'T, plain and simple.
A connection between the Bosnians/Albanian Kosovo and the guy who attacked and killed 3000 US citizens might mean nothing to you but many DON'T see it that way, especially when this country took their freaken side.
http://www.iwpr.net/index.php?apc_state=hen-Bosnian%20fighters%20in%20Iraq&s=o&o=archive/tri/tri_405_1_eng.txt
"The Bosnian authorities have denied knowledge of any terrorist activities, but there have been reports that the mujahadeen were organizing training camps for terrorists in several locations in Bosnia."
http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Terrorism&loid=8.0.221414396&par=
So YOU might think my opinion "really doesn't matter", for whatever alternate views you hold, but that's not the point here, now is it? ;p
Whatever. Been here, done this. It's boring.
"Athens: Police clashed with protesters who threw rocks and eggs at the U.S. and British embassies and lit fires and smashed store windows and cars. Some light injuries were reported. Greece, leading the dissident wing of NATO, has been calling for an immediate halt to the bombing and a return to the negotiating table. In addition, it has refused to offer its military forces to join the assault. It was the largest demonstration of its kind in at least the last 20 years."
-Associate Press
"Greece refused to participate in NATO bombings against Yugoslavia, Stephanopoulos says:"
"Greece refused to participate in the NATO bombings against Yugoslavia, Greek President Kostis Stephanopoulos said on Tuesday night, addressing his Yugoslavian counterpart Vojislav Kostunica. During a dinner hosted by Stephanopoulos for Kostunica, the former said that "the mistakes of the (Yugoslav) government of that time should have not been relegated on the Serbian people, nor should military means been used against them, it should have been thought that there were other ways to enforce the democratic and humanistic ideas". Stephanopoulos made special mention of the friendship between the peoples of Greece and Serbia, which was forged during the 20th century, adding that Greece and Serbia always found themselves "on the same side of the struggle for freedom and independence".
http://www.greekembassy.org/press/newsflash/2001/January/nflash0117.html
"Asked about the accuracy of the report that the majority of the Greek people support the Serb cause, Mr. Kranidiotis answered that he would describe the situation somewhat differently. Most Greeks, he continued, oppose the bombings, the aur-raids and the war due to a sense of insecurity caused, largely, by the proximity of the conflict to their frontiers; there is a looming fear that the crisis might spread and lead to a Greek involvement, either direct or indirect. When Mr. Paxman observed that Greece provides assistance to the Serbs, Mr. Kranidiotis replied that Greece also gives aid to Albania, FYROM and Kosovo. Greece, he added, has the only existing network of non-governmental organisations that provide humanitarian assistance to Kosovo, something that requires prior consultations with Yugoslav authorities. The agreement we have with the Government of Yugoslavia, he said, stipulates that aid will be equally distributed among Albanians and Serbs. There are also Serbs in the hospitals, he remarked. Asked about Greeces intentions as to allowing the passage of NATO land forces through its territory, if such decision were to be made by the Alliance, Mr. Kranidiotis replied that the matter would be dealt with, if and when it arose. For the time being, he said, such an eventuality remains non-existent. Finally, queried about recent anti-war demonstrations in Greece, as well as about the incident with British military vehicles at the Thessaloniki wholesale fruit-market, the Alternate Foreign Minister acknowledged the existence of popular reaction, he asserted, however, that the Greek Government is in full control of the situation."
http://www.hri.org/MFA/altminister/releaseseng/may99/newsnighteng050599.htm
That last statement regarding the British military vehicles and the fruit-market incident could have been part of a Three Stooges skit show. This incident took place in Thessaloniki. What happened was in several occasions people blocked NATO convoys from transporting military equipment that were to be used in the war with their cars and some supporters thought it would be "interesting" if they messed with the road signs of the English army and as a result, many confused English soldiers found themselves driving in the central fruit market of Thessaloniki instead of their destinations.
Another incident had British troops blocked inside the port of Thessaloniki for days. People outside the port created a human wall so the British troops took these unexpected events all in good stride and could be seen sunbathing and relaxing inside the port.
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