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The Savage Nation vs. the Bushbots
www.homestead.com ^ | 7/21/05 | PAUL MULSHINE

Posted on 11/28/2005 5:03:33 PM PST by mastercylinder

Edited on 11/28/2005 5:07:49 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Al Franken and the other liberals are probably still wondering why they had such little luck in their efforts to start a talk-radio network to bash George Bush from the left. They didn't consider the obvious explanation. George Bush has his left flank nicely covered. It's on the right that he's weak.

That is the theory of Michael Savage. Savage is the most right-wing of the right-wing talkers on the national airwaves at the moment. He is based in San Francisco, but he can be heard in the New York area on WOR in the evenings. He is a welcome change from those Karl Rove clones Hush Bimbo and Sean Vanity.

"Hush Bimbo" and "Sean Vanity" are the names Savage has pinned on Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity of WABC. In doing so, he has sparked a war between the members of his "Savage Nation" (slogan: "Borders, language, culture") and the so-called "Bushbots," that sizable number of gullible Americans who can be convinced that whatever policy Bush adopts is a conservative policy.

"What makes Bush a conservative?" Savage asked when I got him on the phone the other day. "On the economy, Bush has got more governmental workers than anybody before him. He's ballooned the government."

As regards the so-called "war on terror," Savage points out that you can't win a war when you're afraid even to name the enemy.

"He's never mentioned Islamofascism," said Savage.

No, he hasn't. Even the French have been more willing to defend their borders, language and culture than Bush. He's a multiculturalist and a mushy one at that. Instead of reducing the reach of Islamic fundamentalism, Bush has managed in Iraq to get 1,700 Americans killed in a war that will create yet another Islamic republic. Just yesterday we learned that the new constitution in Iraq will incorporate sharia, Islamic law.

That's why we right-wing commentators believe the Iraq war has been the biggest blunder in America's military history. As for Bimbo and Vanity, if I may employ Savage's labels, they are simply too uneducated to realize that the Iraq war represents a failed liberal exercise in nation-building.

"There is no college in Rush. There is no college in Hannity," said Savage. "He's a high school dropout. It's like listening to an uneducated, unthinking man on the radio."

Savage has a Ph.D. from Berkeley in epidemiology, an extremely challenging field. That makes him a bit overqualified for the verbal pro-wrestling matches that make up talk radio. But it also makes him interesting.

The Bushbots don't think so. On their Web sites, they call Savage a bigot and a racist, two terms the employment of which generally indicate that the speaker is losing an argument. Savage is a hero on those Web sites that attack Bush's open-borders approach to immigration. "Rush Limbaugh is a direct link to his president, El Traitor, Senor Bush," wrote one blogger. "The invasion by illegals has been going on now for a long time."

"You are 100 percent correct," said another of Limbaugh and Hannity. "They are nothing but blind, rubber-stamping followers of El Presidente Bush."

All of this is a lot of fun if you don't take it seriously. I certainly don't. But I do find talk radio to be a good barometer of the nation's mood. And the nation is slowly figuring out that the Bush-neoconservative-Troskyite- internationalist view of foreign affairs has not worked out so swimmingly for the good old U.S. of A.

"Bush is melting down our borders and making us into a polyglot nation in which no one speaks the language," says Savage.

Savage hears a lot from people who say that any criticism of Bush is a mark of disloyalty to conservatism.

"I can't stand listening to people who want me to be a lapdog for Bush," he told me. "We're supposed to be watchdogs, not lapdogs."

As for the rest of the radio talkers, "They may as well work for the Republican Party. There's nothing interesting if you can predict what a man's going to say by just going to the GOP Web site."

He's certainly got that right. Listening to an endless rehash of Karl Rove's talking points, leavened by a few Teddy Kennedy-is-a-drunk jokes, is not very entertaining.

As for the Al Franken approach, how can a nation-building, internationalist multiculturalist get any traction by criticizing another nation-building, internationalist multiculturalist? John Kerry had that problem as well, you might have noticed.

When you attack the Bush-Rove spin from the right, however, you realize that the neocons' grand social experiment has been tried most visibly in Iraq and has failed most visibly there. People are starting to notice. Eventually even the Bushbots may get a clue.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bush; bushbot; duplicatepost; hehasitright; kook; savage; talkradio; weinerbots
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To: durasell

VERY WISE! I have no idea how that advice became so pervasive. It really is terrible advice, I have thought for a long time now.


221 posted on 11/28/2005 8:14:54 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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I like Levin's line: Savage (whom he doesn't name) is leading the conservative charge from a padded cell.


222 posted on 11/28/2005 8:16:45 PM PST by sullivan-fan
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To: HitmanNY

And I'm a quick learner. It only took one young business associate to show up in a meeting, kick off his shoes and start absent mindedly picking his toes to teach me.


223 posted on 11/28/2005 8:17:33 PM PST by durasell
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To: mastercylinder

Savage does have a "Lonesome Rhodes" quality about him.


224 posted on 11/28/2005 8:18:58 PM PST by Liberty Valance ("Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others." - oh, and Merry Christmas!)
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To: Stepan12

"Pres. Bush mentioned Islamofascism in his recent speech."

Please check the date of this article. Before Bush mentioned Islamofacism. Savage has been on the uptick since 9/11. Only now is it catching on with the East Coasters.


225 posted on 11/28/2005 8:20:05 PM PST by Prost1 (I get my news at Free Republic!)
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To: jdm
I try to listen to savage, but he is just so envious of good talk-show host. My parents always taught me that you never rise up, by attempting to bring others down. He should have been taught that also. He also rants about his superior education. I had a teacher in high school that had a Doctorate in History. Couldn't tie his own shoes, boil water, or communicate with a classroom. We considered him an idiot. Edge-u-katchion ain't everythang.

Additionally he rants on and on about how top officials won't come on his show to be interviewed. Once again, placing his importance a little above itself.

226 posted on 11/28/2005 8:21:41 PM PST by phil1750 (Love like you've never been hurt;Dance like nobody's watching;PRAY like it's your last prayer)
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To: Hardshell

BORDERS, LANGUAGE, AND CULTURE

Yes, Savage will tell you everything about them except -- "why?"


227 posted on 11/28/2005 8:22:03 PM PST by durasell
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

"Savage is just not politicly correct i think sometimes people forget what its like to speak your real Mind instead of being afraid of hurting someones precious feelings. "

Are you married? Do you speak you're real mind to your wife? Do you speak your real mind to all of your friends and family members? Your Boss? Your employees? Strangers on the bus?


228 posted on 11/28/2005 8:22:54 PM PST by listenhillary ("Mainstream media" is creating it's own reality~everything sucks)
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To: jdm
Ooops. I didn't realize that was a liberal commie rag!

It is hard for me to understand, you must have read it, you posted a link to it, but you did not realize that it is the foremost socialist publication in the country?

229 posted on 11/28/2005 8:31:08 PM PST by TheHound (You would be paranoid too - if everyone was out to get you.)
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To: chris1
I think he will go down as a mixed bag at best.

Bush will go down as the biggest social welfare spender in the hsitory of the world. That is an unfortunate fact, and that will be his "legacy".

230 posted on 11/28/2005 8:48:54 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: jdm

Rush isn't a high school dropout


231 posted on 11/28/2005 8:52:19 PM PST by Vision ("When you trust in yourself, you're trusting in the same wisdom that created you")
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
"That is an unfortunate fact..."

Actually it's only an opinion. They're often confused for facts.

232 posted on 11/28/2005 8:52:53 PM PST by CWOJackson (michael savage: the white trash alternative to talk radio)
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To: mastercylinder

The Cannibals shall feast tonight!!!


233 posted on 11/28/2005 8:56:54 PM PST by Tempest (I'm a Christian. Before I am a conservative.)
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To: CWOJackson

It is not an opinion, it is a fact.

You must not study the OMB data and historical data.


234 posted on 11/28/2005 8:58:41 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: mastercylinder

Savage speaks the truth.


235 posted on 11/28/2005 8:59:33 PM PST by MistrX
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
"It is not an opinion, it is a fact."

LOL! What I don't do is accept biased opinion for anything other then what it is...opinion.

236 posted on 11/28/2005 9:00:37 PM PST by CWOJackson (michael savage: the white trash alternative to talk radio)
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To: CWOJackson

I stated a fact, not an opinion. If you care to refute that, tell me who has spent more than George Bush for gloabl and domestic welfare.


237 posted on 11/28/2005 9:02:28 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
"I stated a fact, not an opinion."

LOL! Yep, Michael Moore thinks his opinions are fact also.

238 posted on 11/28/2005 9:07:40 PM PST by CWOJackson (michael savage: the white trash alternative to talk radio)
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To: mastercylinder
And the nation is slowly figuring out that the Bush-neoconservative-Troskyite- internationalist view of foreign affairs has not worked out so swimmingly for the good old U.S. of A.

It's too bad they didn't recognize this in 2004 when they had a chance to stop him. Even more people voted for Dubya in 2004 then in 2000.

Clearly the world is about to switch directions and start revolving your way tomorrow. I can feel it.[/sarcasm]

On the day after the 2004 elections the Daily Mirror asked on it's cover how 59 million Americans could be so dumb. It is a sentiment that Berkeley Ph.D. elitist Savage shares with rats, the MSM, and other pointy head elitists. Savage was thankfully taken off the air in Madison WI 3 months ago, and replaced with a true patriot Sean Hannity.

239 posted on 11/28/2005 9:08:28 PM PST by Once-Ler (The rat 06 election platform will be a promise to impeach the President if they win.)
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To: CWOJackson

You are avoiding my question.

I said state one person in the history of the world who has spent more money on domestic and global welfare than George Bush. You avoided answering that.

Either point that person out or take back your claim.


240 posted on 11/28/2005 9:09:52 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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