Settlers destroy Palestinian olive trees [Happens Every Year This Time]

Reuters ^ | Nov. 27, 2005

[Alouette]

NABLUS, West Bank (Reuters) - Jewish settlers cut down and uprooted hundreds of olive trees on Palestinian farms near the West Bank city of Nablus on Sunday, residents and Israeli police said.

Settlers from the most radical enclaves in the occupied West Bank have often attacked farms since the start of a Palestinian uprising in 2000, in which settlers have often been targeted by militants.

Settlers say that the land, which Palestinians want for a state, is theirs by biblical birthright.

Residents of Salem said dozens of settlers from Elon Moreh chopped down hundreds of the town's olive trees, the main source of income for 5,000 residents.

"This is not the first time that settlers have cut down dozens of olive trees. Among them were trees more than 30 years old," said Adli Eshiya, a local councilor. Villagers said it was the sixth such attack this year.

Police said that at least 200 olive trees had been destroyed near Salem and that an investigation had begun.

A spokesman for Elon Moreh settlement, Benny Katsover, said he was not aware of the incident.

More than 245,000 settlers live in the West Bank, home to 2.4 million Palestinians. The World Court has said that all of Israel's settlements on land captured in the 1967 Middle East war are illegal. Israel disputes this.

Settlers' anger has grown more intense since Israel removed settlements from the Gaza Strip this year under Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's plan for breaking from conflict with the Palestinians.

Although Sharon has said he has no further plans for unilateral withdrawals, he has said that some isolated West Bank settlements would have to go under any eventual peace deal. Elon Moreh is one of the smaller settlements.

[the anti-liberal]

>NO!

>I'm saying the Palestinians pruned their own trees and then told the media that "settlers" "destroyed" the trees.

Thanks for that. This reminds me of that staged video of Israel attacks on Palestinians awhile back (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1494535/posts):

Those fake attacks on Palestinians -- Eyeopening video
Various ^

Posted on 09/30/2005 5:18:48 PM PDT by F14 Pilot

Those fake attacks on Palestinians- Eyeopening video

What you see on TV is often staged and biased. This video (17 mins) will help you get an idea of what lies beneath.

click here.

[rogue yam]

Sneaky? In what way?

By characterizing something as commonplace that has happened once. If that.

[Seamoth]

A liberal's wet dream.

[Dustbunny]

I think that all of this needs to be taken with a huge chunk of salt.

[the anti-liberal]

Made a post refering to your posted article 'Those fake attacks on Palestinians -- Eyeopening video', so I'm pinging you.

Ping!

[Nachum]

By characterizing something as commonplace that has happened once. If that.

I have been called a variety of names one time. The deicide charge was openly used once and hinted at more than once. The use of epithets after heated exchanges are indeed commonplace.

The point was that at a certain point, it was not worth it to engage in the type of rhetoric that gets you there. Matter of fact, it does not even pay to respond to names like liar. For the most part it is an exercise in futility.

[Clara Lou]

You are trying to reason with someone who is not reasonable--at least not in this setting.

[Nachum]

You are trying to reason with someone who is not reasonable--at least not in this setting.

LOL. No good deed shall go unpunished.

[rock58seg]

Please give me a more descriptive phrase or word, for a tree that has not been uprooted, when one is disputing an uprooting allegation of a still rooted tree.

Is there another agenda at the root of your post? If so perhaps we should root it out. Roto-rooter should be able to get to the bottom of your pedantic semantic problem and at least analyze it

[Alouette]

You are pretending that I have not demonstrated your dishonesty on previous threads, but I have.

Links, please.

Here is your chance to prove your accusations to my entire ping list.

[Cicero]

Looks like a good case to me. The media suck up Palestinian lies in a liberal minute, and when the truth comes out a few weeks later, they can't be bothered to correct their stories.

That happens so often that I was persuaded in this instance as soon as I saw the photos.

[It's me]

I'm not spinning. I am asking.
I was really just trying to have a discussion.

[avile]

The original Jewish Christians largely reverted to either Judaism or fled to Arabia to escape the persecution from what they considered to be an illigitimate church (Roman).
there are some theorists that Muhammed learned from them.
While Christians in general tend to be longer denizens than their Moslem couterparts throuhgout the middle east- i.e. Chritians of Iraq are the real Assyrians and of Egypt are the real Egyptians- the Pali Christians may have some Jewish or Greek colonist blood, the land was made quite desolate form the many genocidal wars with new colonists .
its interesting that the Bible states that it will be desolate when Gods people are not there.

[avile]

"They have old civilization"

Just because thee has been civilization in a certain region for a long time does not mean that the current denizens have an old civilization.

Jews are a 5000 year old nation-longer than the English,Poles and French combined.

there has been civilization in Britain and Asia minor for a long tome , but no one seriously would credit the Agles,saxons and jutes for the former or ottomans for the latter.
The Arabian colonists called "palestinians " are newcomers without a national history.
Who was their first king?
Why don't they speak Palestinian?
Ones Jewishness is immutable, but if the League of nations drew the border 10 miles further north the Tyrians would be Palestinians ? And if were drawn further south to exclude Acco, those Arabs would be Lebanese. Yet a Jew remains a Jew.

[Alexander Rubin]

Actually, its probably closer to 3500 years. 5800 would be by the Hebrew calendar, which operates under the lunar calendar: shorter years.

[Clemenza]

I'm as Pro-Israel as they come, but I'm still PO'd to see good olives gone to waste.

[SauronOfMordor]

No, I am saying that the "settlers" DID NOT CUT DOWN or UPROOT any trees.

Here's my point of curiousity: who owned the trees, and whose property was it?

If they were Palestinian trees, why were the settlers touching them (for needed pruning or not)?

[kenavi]

Actually, its probably closer to 3500 years. 5800 would be by the Hebrew calendar, which operates under the lunar calendar: shorter years.

The Jewish calendar inserts a leap month every few years to equate to the solar calendar (365/366 days) by the end of every, I think, 14 years (it's complicated).

So 5,766 "Jewish moon" years is roughly equivalent to 5,766 Julian (or whatever you call our common system) years.

That being said, Abraham is supposed to have lived around 2,000 B.C., so Jewish history itself is only about 4,000 years old. Please note that Adam and Eve were not Jewish, despite have very Jewish-sounding names.