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There Is No God
National Public Radio ^ | 11/21/05 | Penn Jillette

Posted on 11/27/2005 6:32:15 AM PST by machman

Morning Edition, November 21, 2005 ·

I believe that there is no God. I'm beyond Atheism. Atheism is not believing in God. Not believing in God is easy -- you can't prove a negative, so there's no work to do. You can't prove that there isn't an elephant inside the trunk of my car. You sure? How about now? Maybe he was just hiding before. Check again. Did I mention that my personal heartfelt definition of the word "elephant" includes mystery, order, goodness, love and a spare tire?

So, anyone with a love for truth outside of herself has to start with no belief in God and then look for evidence of God. She needs to search for some objective evidence of a supernatural power. All the people I write e-mails to often are still stuck at this searching stage. The Atheism part is easy.

But, this "This I Believe" thing seems to demand something more personal, some leap of faith that helps one see life's big picture, some rules to live by. So, I'm saying, "This I believe: I believe there is no God."

Having taken that step, it informs every moment of my life. I'm not greedy. I have love, blue skies, rainbows and Hallmark cards, and that has to be enough. It has to be enough, but it's everything in the world and everything in the world is plenty for me. It seems just rude to beg the invisible for more. Just the love of my family that raised me and the family I'm raising now is enough that I don't need heaven. I won the huge genetic lottery and I get joy every day.

Believing there's no God means I can't really be forgiven except by kindness and faulty memories. That's good; it makes me want to be more thoughtful. I have to try to treat people right the first time around.

Believing there's no God stops me from being solipsistic. I can read ideas from all different people from all different cultures. Without God, we can agree on reality, and I can keep learning where I'm wrong. We can all keep adjusting, so we can really communicate. I don't travel in circles where people say, "I have faith, I believe this in my heart and nothing you can say or do can shake my faith." That's just a long-winded religious way to say, "shut up," or another two words that the FCC likes less. But all obscenity is less insulting than, "How I was brought up and my imaginary friend means more to me than anything you can ever say or do." So, believing there is no God lets me be proven wrong and that's always fun. It means I'm learning something.

Believing there is no God means the suffering I've seen in my family, and indeed all the suffering in the world, isn't caused by an omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent force that isn't bothered to help or is just testing us, but rather something we all may be able to help others with in the future. No God means the possibility of less suffering in the future.

Believing there is no God gives me more room for belief in family, people, love, truth, beauty, sex, Jell-o and all the other things I can prove and that make this life the best life I will ever have.


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To: IronJack
The suffering is the result of MAN'S inadequacies, not God's.

Oh please! How is an earthquake, a tsunami, a flash flood, a force five hurrican the result of MAN'S inadequacies. I don't think so. Try again.

201 posted on 11/27/2005 8:44:16 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: IronJack

Where do you live? Here in the Deep South it's pretty common to credit God for good luck. Even on FR you come across this. This morning there was a thread about a little girl saving her father when a car collapsed on him. One of the first handful of posts mentioned "someone above must've been looking out for him."


202 posted on 11/27/2005 8:45:10 AM PST by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: machman
One cannot prove the existence of God. Therefore believing in God is an act of faith.

One also cannot disprove the existence of God. Therefore believing there is no God is also an act of faith.

This is logic.

Most atheists are cop outs. Believing in God is hard, so they think by not believing in God is easy. In reality, most atheists believe in nothing, because that is what is easy. Not believing in God is hard. Get into a theological discussion with them, and watch them go into a tizzy trying to "disprove" God, with the classic lame arguments.

Then ask them: Can you prove God does not exist? When they say they can't, say: So your belief there is no God is an act of faith on your part.

203 posted on 11/27/2005 8:45:25 AM PST by magellan ( by)
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To: RoadTest

God bless you machman. I was trying to recall the exact location of this wonderfful verse in the bible. do you know the one that says man's philosophy is flawed? thanks


204 posted on 11/27/2005 8:45:38 AM PST by Cinnamon
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To: mad_as_he$$
Do you believe only because you think it is the winning side?
Say, is there a game going on?
205 posted on 11/27/2005 8:46:25 AM PST by harbinger of doom (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)
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To: bobbdobbs
There has to be some transcendent source of right and wrong.

Has to? No, there doesn't. Why does there have to be?

206 posted on 11/27/2005 8:47:26 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: machman

God did not grant you those rights either. They are inherent in the individual.


207 posted on 11/27/2005 8:47:40 AM PST by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: Jack Black

Think "New Orleans".


208 posted on 11/27/2005 8:49:16 AM PST by harbinger of doom (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Not by a longshot. But the Christian religion is, by many, professed to be "tolerant".

I believe that the Christian religion is very tolerant. This is demonstrated over and over again throughout the world by millions of Christians on a daily basis. Disagreeing with someone and stating facts of what one believes, even if that fact is very detrimental to another (e.g. personal sin separates one from God) is not intolerance. Wanting to separate your personal life from sin and possible influences is not intolerance. Just some quick thoughts ...

209 posted on 11/27/2005 8:49:30 AM PST by TexGuy
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To: harbinger of doom

Yes with your soul.


210 posted on 11/27/2005 8:50:51 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: G Larry
Atheism is simply an excuse to make up your life rules as you go along.

What a bunch of crap. How the hell do you know?

For me, the atheist position was one I was forced to accept. I didn't want it. It was scary.

But I accepted it because it was the only logical thing I could do.

211 posted on 11/27/2005 8:51:59 AM PST by mc6809e
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To: PROSOUTH
"But then again when you die and there is a God and he is at the gate, what are you going to tell him?"

Ooops!

212 posted on 11/27/2005 8:52:01 AM PST by Trampled by Lambs (I think, therefor I Zot!)
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To: Mountain Dewd
"I can read ideas from all different people from all different cultures."

What's he trying to say? Sounds like a typical liberal to me.

So, expanding one's knowledge of the world is now "typically liberal?" It's folks like you who give conservatism a bad name.

213 posted on 11/27/2005 8:52:56 AM PST by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

So, who is competing for my soul?

The Greek gods or the 300-plus Hindu gods?


214 posted on 11/27/2005 8:54:20 AM PST by harbinger of doom (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)
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To: jrg
Where do you get the idea that Penn Jillette is unhappy? I've met the man, and he is an extremely nice and polite individual who seems to enjoy life. Never would get the idea that he is an unhappy liberal. In fact, I probably wouldn't call him a "liberal" at all. Doesn't mean that he's a "conservative" either.

Ever seen their show on Showtime called "B***S***"? I've only seen it a few times, but it is definately not a liberal program. They pick topics near and dear to a liberal's heart, and then thoroughly debunk the believe. Like global warming. They do a very nice job of it.

215 posted on 11/27/2005 8:54:28 AM PST by FixedandDilated
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To: mc6809e
And the fool hath said, "let's use a 2,000 year old nomadic philosophy in the 21st century!"

Last week I was talking to Zeus and he said that we are ignoring him.
216 posted on 11/27/2005 8:55:00 AM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: TexGuy
I agree completely. I was taking issue with the ones - a few. Who insist on the name calling and abusive language to those who see things differently - such a the article writer. Unfortunately as with many things the vocal minority are the focal point. My original post started with "many" not ALL. FWIW I think radical Islam is the most intolerant religion on earth at this time. However, the Catholic church held that post for many centuries.
217 posted on 11/27/2005 8:55:24 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: bobbdobbs
Everything is an act of faith.

Dan

219 posted on 11/27/2005 8:59:10 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Wormwood

Is Penn Gillette somebody famous?


220 posted on 11/27/2005 9:01:33 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Huh?)
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