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This is almost surreal. Here is a know liar(The Dinosaur Media) crafting a PR spin (plunging poll numbers) that is an oblivious lie to anyone who bothers to spend even a heart beat looking BEYOND the spin at the raw data.

In stead of helping get the truth out, supposedly "Conservatives" Freepers embrace the spin lie and spend all their time echoing the Dinosaur Media spin lie which is doing exactly what their enemy's want them to do. The same "Conservatives" start spending all their time having public panic attacks about the lie. Repeatedly People point out how it is clear the PR spin is a lie, but since the old "Conservatives" have spent so much time repeating the lie, they now have NO ability to consider any other viewpoint that does NOT reinforce the lie. No matter how the objective data does NOT support the PR lie being presented the supposed "Conservatives" go into foaming at the mouth attack mode when ever anyone points out how reality and the spin lie do not match. Do the supposed "Conservatives" bother to consider the facts and reconsider their emotion based whimsy? No instead they cling to their attack mode and spend all their time patting each other on the back for standing up to anyone who anyone who points out the glaring flaws in basing everything on a "fact" presented you by your political enemies. (ie.Manipulated polling samples). I hate to break your mutual admiration society but you are both completely swallowing the bait. I sorry modern Politics does not work like you remember it did in the 1970s. Make peace with it. The Modern world has passed you by. The world no longer works how Hollywood told you it did back then.

1. I don't believe the polls.

2. I don't particularly care about the polls.

3. I still want better Republicans on the talk shows. Getting the message covered better on those shows would shut up people like David Gregory, who really is a huge pain in the neck.

I was about to say this where you have officially lost touch with reality, but then I recalled your absolutley childish and petulant display from last week. You remember, dont you? The one where you claimed you were in charge of "this thread" and could have anyone booted? The same inane post that was immediatley countered by the admin mods, saying "it doesnt wotk that way"? The fantasy land where you live doesnt transcend everyone elses reality. The adults here recognize an image problem brought about by polls, (whether you believe them or or know they are skewed)a very effective media campaign, and the DNC. You running around and attacking everybody who doesnt believe your spin does our movement and indeed this thread a great disservice. Approval rate has fallen, despite you running around bullying everyone who doesnt agree with you. You are rapidly becoming the Baghdad Bob of FR with your "head in the sand" chiding. If you want to believe everything is just peachy, go right ahead. But dont attack other posters because they dont buy into your fantasy. Why dont you go sit at the childrens table for awhile until you are ready to debate like an adult?

It's doesn't take a mental giant to extrapolate the simple truth that the Sunday Morning talk shows are not the only shows where the premise we have mentioned holds true.

The Sunday Morning talk shows are watched by millions. So are the left wing cable channels CNN, CNN Headline News, MSNBC, CNBC and even other non-news related networks and programs that state anti-right information as if it were fact. The list is quite extensive. We allow the left to spin in a vacuum. That's what Regan Man and I have been trying to address over your insipid childish objections. You have tried to state that Bush's poll numbers reveal that the left hasn't achieved anything with it's non-stop unchallenged propaganda. I can't believe anyone would make that claim, but you not only make it but hugg it like it's the holy grail of modern political environment.

We have the print media, the televions industry and the entertainment industry backing leftist ideology almost as a solid block, and you're upset because some of us are asking the Repbulicans to devise a plan, unify behind that plan and do their best to challenge the leftist propaganda mill.

When Republicans go on talk shows, they should know what bullet point they are going to hit before they enter the front door of the studio. If they don't, then they should go play golf and quit facilitating the impression that the right doesn't have clue one.

We can't help it if you can't grasp this concept.