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To: jec1ny

The Indians would have wiped us out if they could have too. I agree that they did get screwed, but the English were struggling to survive as were the Indians. There were no innocent or guilty in this. The Indians had always fought each other, Europeans had always fought each other. It's simple human nature, and when the English arrived here; which they had every right to do, what came next over the centuries was unavoidable. I'm sure Indians are proud of their ancestors who fought the English, and I am proud of my Puritan ancestors.


83 posted on 11/24/2005 6:09:30 PM PST by MadManDan
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To: MadManDan
"The Indians would have wiped us out if they could have too. I agree that they did get screwed, but the English were struggling to survive as were the Indians. There were no innocent or guilty in this. The Indians had always fought each other, Europeans had always fought each other. It's simple human nature, and when the English arrived here; which they had every right to do, what came next over the centuries was unavoidable. I'm sure Indians are proud of their ancestors who fought the English, and I am proud of my Puritan ancestors."

Rubbish. Thats pure unadulterated clap trap. We stole a continent and forcibly expelled or murdered outright millions of people who lived here before us. Their culture or lack thereof is immaterial. It was none of our damned business. Imperialism is immoral and a crime against God and man. I am appalled that anyone claiming to be a Christian (perhaps you do not make that claim) would advance such an odious defense of unspeakable atrocities. No Christian can or should endorse it ever. Those who have been busily rewriting history on this forum are either damned ignorant or base liars. Try reading the historical accounts of Bartholomew de Las Casas (1474-1566). Then you can move on to the history of the treatment of the native American population under the United States Government. I am hard pressed to think of many treaties we signed that were not violated by our government, in some cases before the ink was dry. What about the so called civilized tribes (Cherokee) who sued the state of Georgia and won in the courts. Andrew Jackson (who's view of Indians was lower then his view of blacks) famous quote "Mr. Marshall (The SCOTUS Chief Justice)has ruled. Let him enforce it." He then ordered the army to remove the Indians by force from their lands in violation of more laws then I can count. I would still be typing come judgment day if I were going to list the crimes committed against these people. If you are looking for someone who is even remotely sympathetic to the cause of the white man in this matter you are barking up the wrong tree. And be damned to anyone who cries "Oh the raving liberal!" If you can't stomach the truth do what is so common here and try to get me banned.
147 posted on 11/24/2005 7:05:22 PM PST by jec1ny (Adjutorium nostrum in nomine Domine Qui fecit caelum et terram.)
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