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"The Indians would have wiped us out if they could have too. I agree that they did get screwed, but the English were struggling to survive as were the Indians. There were no innocent or guilty in this. The Indians had always fought each other, Europeans had always fought each other. It's simple human nature, and when the English arrived here; which they had every right to do, what came next over the centuries was unavoidable. I'm sure Indians are proud of their ancestors who fought the English, and I am proud of my Puritan ancestors."

Rubbish. Thats pure unadulterated clap trap. We stole a continent and forcibly expelled or murdered outright millions of people who lived here before us. Their culture or lack thereof is immaterial. It was none of our damned business. Imperialism is immoral and a crime against God and man. I am appalled that anyone claiming to be a Christian (perhaps you do not make that claim) would advance such an odious defense of unspeakable atrocities. No Christian can or should endorse it ever. Those who have been busily rewriting history on this forum are either damned ignorant or base liars. Try reading the historical accounts of Bartholomew de Las Casas (1474-1566). Then you can move on to the history of the treatment of the native American population under the United States Government. I am hard pressed to think of many treaties we signed that were not violated by our government, in some cases before the ink was dry. What about the so called civilized tribes (Cherokee) who sued the state of Georgia and won in the courts. Andrew Jackson (who's view of Indians was lower then his view of blacks) famous quote "Mr. Marshall (The SCOTUS Chief Justice)has ruled. Let him enforce it." He then ordered the army to remove the Indians by force from their lands in violation of more laws then I can count. I would still be typing come judgment day if I were going to list the crimes committed against these people. If you are looking for someone who is even remotely sympathetic to the cause of the white man in this matter you are barking up the wrong tree. And be damned to anyone who cries "Oh the raving liberal!" If you can't stomach the truth do what is so common here and try to get me banned.

Hmmm ~ Mexico went from about 50 million people to barely 5 million people in 30 years after first contact. The modern concensus is that disease killed the Mexican Indians.

Same thing happened elsewhere in the Americas.

And so if it all could have been done over what would be your approved view of the correct sequence of events?

I don't care about getting you banned; but, I will retort. You are absolutely full of crap! I never said the Indians DIDN'T get screwed, I agreed that they did. But, if they had the means they would have kicked the English back across the Atlantic, I don't see how you can say they wouldn't. The Indians weren't pacifists like Ghandi were they? (No joke intended) The English had crappy lives where they came from, they were trying for something better here. There was NEVER a policy by the English leaders early on of killing all the Indians. Many of the Puritans, such as Rev. Eliot and Roger Williams, tried to help them as much as they could. What happened was purely a clash of two cultures, and those that won had the best technology. I agree that the government didn't always treat the Indians well later on. Nothing I said was bad or racist in any way, and I honestly fail to see how anyone with a tiny bit of common sense can even extrapolate half the crap you did from what I wrote. I also take exception to your jibes at my Christianity, I will not do the same to you; I'm sure you are a good Christian. Good day!
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The Indians understood land ownership very well, maybe they were misled a little bit, but the land was never actually stolen early on. Being tricked (like the Dutch and Manhattan Island) was more from the stupidity of individual Indian chiefs.

Don't want to reply to my last post hah? Probably because I'm right and you know it. Keep up the great work fighting injustice in the world!