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To: Third Order

I strongly support the ability for people to defend themselves, but I don’t believe that carrying a concealed firearm is the only way to accomplish this.

SO WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST OFFICER???? Another idiot who understands better than I on how to defend myself. It's always nice when someone suggests the above but provides no answer how how I should accomplish this task. Perhaps I should dial 911 while peeing on the nice criminal? Idiot!!


107 posted on 11/23/2005 2:39:19 PM PST by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: JohnD9207

I'll bet he supports the troops, too!


130 posted on 11/23/2005 2:50:29 PM PST by papertyger
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To: JohnD9207
I strongly support the ability for people to defend themselves, but I don’t believe that carrying a concealed firearm is the only way to accomplish this.

My son reported at incident last night at the Starbucks Coffee in the Eastlake area (east of Chula Vista, CA). He was sitting with 3 friends celebrating a birthday when 4 black males entered the store. They suddenly grabbed all the purses they could reach and ran out the door. A woman yelled for help just as the last guy cleared the door. My son and his friends gave chase. One thief made it to top the of the big dirt hill and escaped. Two others dropped the purses across the hillside they stripped money and cellphones out. Upon reaching the top of the hill, two of them turned around with shovels in hand. My son and his friends were unarmed. One of his friends didn't see the shovels in time and was hit across the back. He is currently hospitalized. The 4th thief was slower than the other 3 and was grabbed by my son. The police arrived and took charge. It took 3 discharges of a taser to subdue the captured thief sufficiently to cuff him and place him in a car for transport. There were more than 20 cops cars on the scene by the time the 4th guy was arrested. The two guys with shovels escaped. Starbucks and the nearby Target have security camera video of the incident.

I reminded my son that his heroics may have turned out poorly. The thieves may have been armed with guns or knives instead of grabbing shovels. His training as a Marine needs some augmentation with "street smarts".

144 posted on 11/23/2005 3:06:32 PM PST by Myrddin
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