[blarney]

You keep thinking that, it's good for ya I'm sure. It's still a fact that you have to spend a lot of time telling everyone why your bike is so much better, American Vtwin riders don't because people know.

Oh by they way hp is bragging rights only, toque gets the job done and 99ft lbs is kiddie stuff. So you can put it any way you want and explain it anyway you want but fact of the matter is if it was so great you wouldn't have to tell everyone.

[HOTTIEBOY]

"American Vtwin riders don't because people know."

Know what? Please tell me how a 1400cc V-twin with 60hp is better than a 600cc I4 with 130hp. I am no mathematician but it is fairly obvious.
Without lining them up, tell me which bike is faster.
60hp pulling 700lbs....
or 130hp pulling 375lbs.

[-YYZ-]

Torque don't do crap on its own. HP is what gets the job done. Harley's make good torque down low, which results in decent low-end power. But they usually sign off before 6000 rpm is even reached, greatly limiting the amount of HP they can make.

[Salamander]

LOL!

[kinda like those "Home Of The Whopper" underwear, right?]