[rhombus]

This will get WAY overplayed and spun as some sort of American retreat. Of course there have always been plans for a phased withdrawal beginning after the elections. The Democrats, knowing this tried to capitalize with the overhyped and mischaracterized Murtha pull-out-now "reversal". They would like nothing more than for people to think that they forced the issue when of course it was part of the plan all along.

[conservativecorner]

Hello? You are missing the point completely. It's the question of defining "terrorists" that should have you worried. Everyone already knows we aren't going anywhere soon, but this is unacceptable on the question of what constitutes a "terrorist". All 3 groups came up with this horse shit.

[Steel Wolf]

This will get WAY overplayed and spun as some sort of American retreat.

The media can try and spin it as a retreat, but so long as it is an orderly withdrawl that results in a functioning Iraqi republic, history will remember it as an American victory.

The ultimate objective is to 'poison the well' that the terrorist emerge from. That 'well' is the Islamic fundamentalist state. A successful Iraqi republic, set in the heart of the dysfunctional Arab world, will be eat away at the core of medival Islam like acid. So, let's not fret too much about what the media thinks. They don't seem to realize that we can 'lose the battle' for Iraq, and still win the war.

[freema]

"The Democrats, knowing this tried to capitalize with the overhyped and mischaracterized Murtha pull-out-now "reversal". They would like nothing more than for people to think that they forced the issue when of course it was part of the plan all along."

Bullseye!