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How GM can avoid bankruptcy
MSN Money ^ | 11/17/2005 | Robert Walberg

Posted on 11/20/2005 2:57:23 PM PST by Angry Republican

The company is bleeding billions, but management is beginning to see the light. There are a few bold steps -- including the scrapping of one of its brands -- GM execs should take to keep the auto giant running.

According to some analysts on Wall Street, General Motors lost credibility last week when the company said that it would be restating 2001 earnings.

That’s what it took for GM’s management to lose credibility? How about years of mismanaging its production effort? Or refusing to aggressively streamline its product offerings, recklessly pursuing incentive strategies, failing to address ballooning health-care and pension liabilities?

In order for something to be lost you must have possessed it to begin with, and GM’s management team hasn’t had any credibility for years.

So now, as speculation mounts that General Motors will be forced into bankruptcy, are we really going to believe management when it says that it has no plans to file for bankruptcy protection? Of course not. Let’s at least hope management has begun to realize that it's a possibility.

Bleeding billions
General Motors is in a world of hurt. Even after the United Auto Workers announced Friday that it had ratified the deal to curb health-care costs, General Motors still faces a big uphill battle if it wants to avoid bankruptcy. One analyst has upped his odds for GM filing for bankruptcy protection within the next two years from 30% to 40%. Others have said it's almost a certainty.

Why all the pessimism? GM has been running through cash faster than Paris Hilton at a La Perla store. The company burned almost $10 billion over the past couple of years as the combination of high health care/pension costs, restructuring charges and soft sales slashed its cash horde by about a third.

(Excerpt) Read more at moneycentral.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial
KEYWORDS: automakers; buick; cadillac; chevrolet; generalmotors; gmc; manufacturing; pontiac; saab; saturn; union
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1 posted on 11/20/2005 2:57:23 PM PST by Angry Republican
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To: Angry Republican
GM doesn't want to avoid bankruptcy.

How else are they going to get out from under their crushing insurance and pension costs that the unions have trapped them in?

2 posted on 11/20/2005 3:01:34 PM PST by lOKKI (You can ignore reality until it bites you in the ass.)
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To: Angry Republican

I think back at the Roger Smith years and what he did to this company to satiate his own ego. Now they're paying the price of the rash actions of that megalomaniacal egotistical goon.


3 posted on 11/20/2005 3:01:53 PM PST by putupjob
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To: Angry Republican

No mention of the real problem--the fact that the UAW has tied management's hands.


4 posted on 11/20/2005 3:03:05 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

I thought the whole idea of management was being smart enough to work within existing reality and get results.

Yes, there are unions, but it is not in their interest for GM to go broke and for everyone to lose with pensions and health insurance.


5 posted on 11/20/2005 3:07:26 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: Brilliant

They will BK out.


6 posted on 11/20/2005 3:10:02 PM PST by calrighty (. Troops BTTT)
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To: proxy_user

It may be their job, but history has shown that it's an impossible task, particularly when their competition is often not unionized.

While it is true that it's not in the best interest of the UAW to make GM go bust, they seem to be doing it anyway.


7 posted on 11/20/2005 3:11:10 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: lOKKI

Exactly, bankruptcy is the way they lay off all their union pensions on the American public to pay.

When they do it, we should make GM go out of business by never buying another car from them, or any product from companies that do the same thing in bankruptcy.


8 posted on 11/20/2005 3:13:05 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Angry Republican
Of course, there's always the possibility of building vehicles people want to buy. They haven't done a damn thing with their pick-up trucks the last few years. They could build a retro Chevy (ala '57) or Camaro as Ford did with the retro Mustang.

They deserve to die if they don't get creative with their products.

9 posted on 11/20/2005 3:13:35 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: lOKKI
GM doesn't want to avoid bankruptcy. How else are they going to get out from under their crushing insurance and pension costs that the unions have trapped them in?

Ding, ding, ding - we have a winnah!

10 posted on 11/20/2005 3:14:34 PM PST by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: proxy_user

No, but it is in GM's interest.

There's a huge potential market for a new, lost-cost high-quality domestic manufacturer. The massive pension, health, etc. libailities of Ford and GM have created a huge opening in the market.

There's nothing really wrong with GM's cars. They're just not quite up to snuff. I have a 2003 Saturn SL-1, but I only bought it because a relative offered me a good deal on it when he bought a Civic Hybrid.

Neither Ford nor GM produces any cars that I can really imagine anyone buying simply because they want one. My SL-1 is an ok car, but I can think of nothing to recommend it over any other car.

Chrysler has the right idea. They're producing cars which people actually covet which are fairly reasonably priced - the PT Crusier, the 300C, the Crossfire, and the new Dodge Charger being the most obvious examples.

What do Ford and GM have in their present-year models which is economically priced?


11 posted on 11/20/2005 3:15:46 PM PST by furquhart (Gingrich '08)
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To: Angry Republican
One of its brands -- Chevy or Pontiac -- should probably be scrapped altogether.

What th'...?!

I'm a mopar man m'self, but the very idea of GM scrapping Chevrolet?! It would be easy enough to consolidate lines at dealerships with no more expense than the cost of a different decal. I still don't believe the little Plymouth stickers put on half of the Neons really cost Daimler-Chrysler that much.

Let's see, scrap Chevrolet... we could have the Buick Corvette!

A little creativity please! Chrysler resuscitated the Jeep brand very nicely. It is too late for Plymouth and Oldsmobile. GMC and Chevy trucks are similar enough, but their buyers are different. Kill a line, lose dealerships to the Pacific Rim upstarts. There MUST be better ways to cut costs.

Of course, now that Chicom engines are getting put in some Chevy products, my sympathy has decreased. There must be better places to get cheap production.
12 posted on 11/20/2005 3:17:36 PM PST by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: Angry Republican

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JOE HIGGINS:

Driver-GM's Chevrolet Corvair based MULE military truck on a hilltop in Vietnam-1966

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm
(See 2nd Photo)

Platform Engineer-Development of Chevrolet SSR Sport Truck-2004

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13 posted on 11/20/2005 3:21:48 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: lOKKI
get out from under their crushing insurance and pension costs that the unions have trapped them in?

Contract provisions may be just as onerous:
I remember when the Van Nuys plant (Camaro) closed
laid off workers were on "the payroll" for 2 more years @ 90% salary

14 posted on 11/20/2005 3:22:58 PM PST by TheOracleAtLilac
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Didn't GM's chairman and CEO of GM China, Philip Murtaugh, "resign" recently?

Maybe GM should stop pouring billions into China until GM can stop the Chi-coms from stealing? Just a thought.

I don't think that the Chi-com's Chery Automobile Co is the only thief.

Yes, bankruptcy would be ideal. Pass those domestic employee expenses onto the backs of U.S. taxpayers -- doncha just hate the way government interferes with American capitalists?

Some government interference is good! More money for free tradin' transfer of technology, wealth, and production to the Chi-coms. Helps raise their boats -- and boy! do they have biggggggg boats. I've seen photos of the Chi-coms' boats.

15 posted on 11/20/2005 3:23:15 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (Move over, Henny Youngman.. please! "The most trusted news source." CNN)
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To: Brilliant
No mention of the real problem--the fact that the UAW has tied management's hands.

That's why bankruptcy is probably the best way to save GM, otherwise they are still going to have the union problems looming to come back at just about any time.

16 posted on 11/20/2005 3:25:33 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Angry Republican
I worked at the General Motors Tech Center in Warren, MI about five years ago (as a contract employee) and my Dad worked for GM for about 25 years before that. "clueless" doesn't even begin to explain the sense of unreality and denial that permeates the management culture at that company. My department had 100+ people in it. After 3-4 years our projects were farther from completion then when we started.

If East Germany was a car company it would be GM. The company has been on a slow death spiral since about 1970. Every five years there is a new top-to-bottom reorganization that is supposed to fix things. Nothing ever changes. There is never a sense of urgency.

It takes something as big as GM a long time to die but I don't know it if has much of chance.

(And don't even get me started on the UAW- the rats and MSM have my blood pressure high enough already today.)

17 posted on 11/20/2005 3:29:14 PM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: wagglebee

The only problem is that bankruptcy won't necessarily get rid of the union contract. Law makes it difficult to get rid of union contracts.


18 posted on 11/20/2005 3:29:18 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

I have heard that it may help GM do something with future benefits. Somebody needs to stand up to the UAW and let them know that it's not unrealistic for the Big Three to take all production overseas.


19 posted on 11/20/2005 3:34:34 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Brilliant

Unions were so successful in obtaining higher and higher wages for their members that they got all their people members outsourced to Mexico


20 posted on 11/20/2005 3:35:54 PM PST by systematic
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