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INVASION USA: ARMED STANDOFF ON RIO GRANDE
World Net Daily ^ | Sunday, November 20, 2005 | Staff

Posted on 11/20/2005 5:34:36 AM PST by FerdieMurphy

Uniformed Mexicans with guns, bulldozer seize drug-bust truck from Border Patrol

U.S. Border Patrol agents were backed down this week by armed men, dressed in what appeared to be Mexican military uniforms and carrying military weapons, who seized a captured dump truck filled with marijuana from the U.S. agents and dragged it across the border into Mexico with a bulldozer.

The border incident occurred Thursday evening when Border Patrol agents attempted to pull over a dump truck on Interstate 10 in Hudspeth County, Texas. The driver fled from the agents, exiting the freeway and driving toward the Rio Grande which runs within 2 miles of the interstate in this portion of West Texas.

The driver abandoned the truck after it became stuck in the river bed, escaping into Mexico.

Agents called for reinforcement from the Texas state troopers and Hudspeth County sheriff and began unloading the haul – estimated to have been nearly 3 tons – when everything changed.

Officers "started to retrieve the bundles when the armed subjects appeared," said Agent Ramiro Cordero, Border Patrol spokesman.

According to Hudspeth County Chief Deputy Mike Doyal, the dump truck driver returned with armed men, some of whom drove "official looking vehicles with overhead lights." Some of those armed, Doyal told the El Paso Times, appeared to be Mexican soldiers in uniform with military weapons.

"It's a very serious incident," Doyal said. "We are very fortunate ... no one got hurt. Everyone had the presence of mind not to cause an international incident, or start shooting."

As WorldNetDaily has reported, there are widespread reports of U.S.-trained Mexican commandos, called the Zetas, making cross-border runs into U.S. territory in military-style vehicles, armed with automatic weapons.

The Zetas were trained as elite commandos by U.S. forces to combat the drug cartels, but they have switched sides and are working for the drug smugglers in the border area posing a special hazard to American law enforcement and Border Patrol agents, according to a U.S. Justice Department memo. Under the control of reputed drug kingpin Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, the Zetas are conducting a bloody war for control of the entire southern border in an effort to secure a monopoly on drug-smuggling and people-smuggling routes.

As both sides faced off, a bulldozer appeared from the Mexico side of the river and was used by the armed men to pull the dump truck – and the two-thirds of the marijuana that had not yet been unloaded – into Mexico. The bulldozer, Doyal said, is believed to be used regularly to make makeshift crossings over the Rio Grande.

The "armed encounter with drug smugglers," as Cordero described it, is under investigation. No confirmation was made as to whether or not the "soldiers" belonged to the Mexican military.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas; War on Terror
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To: hinckley buzzard
"We are very fortunate ... no one got hurt. Everyone had the presence of mind not to cause react to an international incident, or start shooting."
201 posted on 11/20/2005 1:21:37 PM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: calrighty

They don't live in New Mexico either- we have had our share of these incidents too.


202 posted on 11/20/2005 1:29:29 PM PST by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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To: FerdieMurphy
Everyone had the presence of mind not to cause an international incident, or start shooting."

Everyone had the presence of mind to surrender.

203 posted on 11/20/2005 1:30:17 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Diversity is divisive. E. Pluribus Unum (Out of many, one))
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To: Tammy8
poof it goes away

It's a shame that coudn't have happened to the dump truck.

I truly would love to read... "A small explosion was heard on the border earlier today. It's reported to have been a small dump truck illegaly trying to enter the US. Us forces deny any involvement."

204 posted on 11/20/2005 1:31:36 PM PST by strange1 ("Show the enemy harm so he shall not advance" Sun Tzu The Art of War)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Only from WND..what a surprise.


205 posted on 11/20/2005 1:34:44 PM PST by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: FerdieMurphy; All

Linking this story here, as there has been some reference to this incident on this thread -- this is a new article from today.

Al Qaida Nabbed Near Mexican Border

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1525711/posts


206 posted on 11/20/2005 1:39:44 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: TalBlack
Why are they out there with inadequate fire power?

As the President.

Why didn't they call help and hammer these scum?

They did call for back up.

Because they are, in all likleyhood, told beforehand to turn tail in such situations.

The BP or any another law enforcement officer is'nt going to start shooting to protect a bunch of dope. Only dopes do that.

207 posted on 11/20/2005 1:50:13 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: Tammy8

"They have taken fire and not returned fire."

Mant times!


208 posted on 11/20/2005 2:00:03 PM PST by calrighty ( Watch " The Beeber Story ", written by al baby, produced by Hugh Series. Troops BTTT)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Cancel the three ring circus. Hide the women. Water the plants. Shave the family cat!


209 posted on 11/20/2005 2:59:33 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: Marine Inspector

"The BP or any another law enforcement officer is'nt going to start shooting to protect a bunch of dope. Only dopes do that."

I ascribed the cowardice to the BP's superiors, You ascribe it to the officers. A bunch oF dope or a load of bibles THAT WAS THE BORDER THOSE SCUMBAGS CAME ACROSS!

"The border" "The BOARDER patrol". Silly me.


210 posted on 11/20/2005 3:07:59 PM PST by TalBlack
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To: nicmarlo
"Known Groups Operating in Mexico: Comando Jaramillista Morelense 23 de Mayo Hizballah (Party of God) Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) Popular Revolutionary Army Zapatistas"

But evidently not reason enough for our Washington crapweasels to do anything meaningful about the illegal alien invasion of the United States.

211 posted on 11/20/2005 3:51:57 PM PST by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar

Nope, because, as you know, they're still sending out their disinformation minister, Baghdad Bob....saying there's no connection between illegal aliens and AQ.


212 posted on 11/20/2005 4:14:05 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: calrighty

Actually I live in So. Cal. and the local news has never mentioned this.


213 posted on 11/20/2005 5:27:17 PM PST by Tempest (I'm a Christian. Before I am a conservative.)
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To: nicmarlo

Who's got there head in the sand??? I asked a series of very reasonable questions and have yet to recieve a straight answer.


214 posted on 11/20/2005 5:28:07 PM PST by Tempest (I'm a Christian. Before I am a conservative.)
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To: Tammy8

thanks for the links. Some rather interesting things to note there. But it appears that all of the news articles are not working.


215 posted on 11/20/2005 5:36:25 PM PST by Tempest (I'm a Christian. Before I am a conservative.)
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To: Tammy8

Also none of those stories actually is a response to any of my initial questions concerning the validity of this incident.


216 posted on 11/20/2005 5:37:19 PM PST by Tempest (I'm a Christian. Before I am a conservative.)
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To: Tempest

Well, I suppose, since you think this is a fairy tale, you can call the writer of this article and his named sources and ask them. Though law enforcement will likely give you little to no specific information, they may confirm this story is not a fairy tale, as it appears you wish to believe.

If you need more very specific information that law enforcement decides to withhold and which would only then allow you to believe this isn't a fairy tale, you could hire a lawyer, file a lawsuit under the Freedom of Information Act, perhaps, and maybe you'll get make of car, color of car, license of car, height and weight of suspects, time of day, etc. This kind of information may be received after filing your discovery demands on the District Attorney's Office, or some other office; of course, if the investigation is ongoing, the District Attorney may file a motion for protective order, which the Judge may grant.

I don't know how one goes about making a doubting Thomas believe or an adult see they're not reading fairy tales.


217 posted on 11/20/2005 5:54:15 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Tempest

The links on that thread worked for me today- I checked several before I linked the thread. All of the ones I tried worked. Not sure why they don't work for you.

I don't have a link to more news on the recent incident- but I did read it in an El Paso paper before I saw it here. The other stories were only to show that this type of incursion happens on the border fairly regularly- that is why so many of us who live on the border don't doubt it did happen. I will see if I can find the El Paso paper link- or another one. It doesn't bother me that you seem sceptical- I am a pretty hard to convince person myself and I know it seems wild that this type of thing could happen and no official would really care.


218 posted on 11/20/2005 6:09:20 PM PST by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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To: FerdieMurphy

The only thing more frightening than Fox is Andres
Manuel Lopez Obrador, an avowed communist and fan of Daniel Ortega, Fidel Castro, and Hugo Chavez. He is expected to win election next year.


219 posted on 11/20/2005 6:35:25 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: peyton randolph

It will backfire on the Republicans, as the radical Dims are exploiting the hispanics.


220 posted on 11/20/2005 6:39:38 PM PST by Thunder90
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