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A million martyrs await the call (They want to die and we want to kill them.)
The Times (London) ^ | November 19, 2005 | Kevin Toolis

Posted on 11/19/2005 5:00:05 AM PST by FerdieMurphy

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To: NicknamedBob

Well I see that you were responding to 20 and so hadn't made it to 45 or 48, so although it probably doesn't mean much I apologize for assuming you had read everything.





141 posted on 11/20/2005 6:26:15 PM PST by bkepley
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To: bkepley

You certainly have a deft hand at poking a hornet's nest!


142 posted on 11/20/2005 6:46:23 PM PST by NicknamedBob (If I were not a husband and father, I might be wealthier, but I wouldn't be richer.)
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To: NicknamedBob

Don't you think that some of the anti-muslim rhetoric on this site is over the edge. I am not a scholar but I do like reading history and it seems irrational to me. There was none of this anti-muslim horror in the early 20th century. Islamic terrorism seems to me to be a relatively new thing, not counting the middle ages when there was terror all around. I don't see how being irrational about the middle-east will help us defeat Islamic terrorism.


143 posted on 11/20/2005 6:58:13 PM PST by bkepley
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To: bkepley
"Maybe you should email a copy of this hate-mail to President Hamid Karzai, I'm sure he'd appreciate your kind words."

Your priorities are a perfect of how political correctness is being used to place a higher value on being phony nice over factually honest.

Do you have anything of substance to offer on this forum, or just the childish fluff you've posted on this thread?

144 posted on 11/20/2005 7:10:26 PM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: bkepley
"There was none of this anti-muslim horror in the early 20th century. Islamic terrorism seems to me to be a relatively new thing, not counting the middle ages when there was terror all around. I don't see how being irrational about the middle-east will help us defeat Islamic terrorism."

The more you post the more your ignorance is displayed, and coupled with your immaturely offensive style, the less it seems worth the time to respond to you. You obviously like to type more than you like to read.

As a brief stab at a little enlightenment, if it won't rock your ignorant bliss too much, though, let me just say that Sheik Wahabbi, the name sake of Wahhabiism, the violent fundamentalist strain of Islam practiced in much of Saudi Arabia and responsible for much of the terrorist attacks in recent decades lived in the seventeenth century. His claim to fame is that he chastised Muslims as having gotten off course from their god-given mission of taking over the world by whatever means necessary, and brutally punishing all who stand in the way.

So much for your "terrorism seems to be a relatively new thing, not counting the middle ages".

I don't know why you want to hang out on this forum, anyway, unless it's as an agitator. You're a natural born liberal.

145 posted on 11/20/2005 7:28:23 PM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
The more you post the more your ignorance is displayed, and coupled with your immaturely offensive style

Try reading your own posts.

146 posted on 11/20/2005 7:33:09 PM PST by bkepley
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
that Sheik Wahabbi, the name sake of Wahhabiism, the violent fundamentalist strain of Islam practiced in much of Saudi Arabia and responsible for much of the terrorist attacks in recent decades lived in the seventeenth century. His claim to fame is that he chastised Muslims as having gotten off course from their god-given mission of taking over the world by whatever means necessary, and brutally punishing all who stand in the way.

No doubt.

147 posted on 11/20/2005 7:52:19 PM PST by bkepley
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To: bkepley
"Don't you think that some of the anti-muslim rhetoric on this site is over the edge. I am not a scholar but I do like reading history and it seems irrational to me."

I honestly think we have sufficient cause to be righteously indignant, to tell you the truth. That may occasionally sound like irrationality, but the truth is a harsh reality. "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." That is the truth of our generation.

And it is a truth impelled not by our wishes, but by the intransigence of our sworn enemies. It is they who have declared the boundaries that prevent neutrality, and it is they who bring the war to innocent civilians.

I think it would be nice to lower our voices and our rhetoric, because not all of the Religion of Peace is of the fanatical position. But show them to me. They are afraid to speak, and they can not control their out of control brothers.

The so-called moderates are enablers of the radicalists. In the middle of the one-hundred percent Moslem countries there is peace, because they have already dispatched their enemies. In Europe, and in America, when they grow strong enough, we can expect the same treatment.

What is truly irrational is thinking that we, or France, can let colonies of people come into the country, set up their own little enclaves, and that they will then be peaceful citizens of the new country.

148 posted on 11/20/2005 8:38:56 PM PST by NicknamedBob (If I were not a husband and father, I might be wealthier, but I wouldn't be richer.)
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To: bkepley
"Try reading your own posts."

Sounds like "I know you are, but what am I."

Like I said, you're immature, uninformed to the point of naivety, and not worth any more time responding to.

Have a nice life in your sheltered little world.

149 posted on 11/20/2005 9:21:43 PM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: fieldmarshaldj

The million martyr march needs to go to a stadium where we can drop a nice welcome for them.


150 posted on 11/20/2005 9:23:10 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

A stadium is too small. How 'bout San Francisco ? :-D


151 posted on 11/20/2005 9:47:09 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (*Fightin' the system like a $2 hooker on crack*)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

If there are even two good people in San Francisco, they should be removed first.
But don't look back, you will turn to salt.


152 posted on 11/20/2005 9:49:43 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: NicknamedBob

I don't have anything against Muslim-bashing for their acts or for the statements of the "fundamentalists". I don't have any problem with calling black-Americans on the problems of their culture, it's not a PC thing. Calling Muhammed a pervert, thief, etc., doesn't serve any good purpose, true or not, that I can see. I admire the President of Afghanistan and the President of Iraq and it's a little schitzophrenic supporting GWB and the wars and reading that stuff here. It does sound quite a bit like the insults the Muslims hurl at the Jews, not intended to educate or rebuke, just to create hatred.


153 posted on 11/21/2005 3:48:43 AM PST by bkepley
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
Like I said, you're immature, uninformed to the point of naivety, and not worth any more time responding to.

Maturity = bombast and insults.

154 posted on 11/21/2005 3:57:50 AM PST by bkepley
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To: bkepley

I suspect I've read a lot more on these matters than you have and have known both Muslims and Christians from the Middle Est (primarily Iraq and Iran) for 35 years. I have no clue, huh? Quit hiding behind shadows and making equivocal statements that are either clueless, baseless
or spineless?


155 posted on 11/21/2005 4:25:25 PM PST by john drake (roman military maxim: "oderint dum metuant, i.e., let them hate, as long as they fear")
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“The Tree of Islam has to be watered with the blood of martyrs

Lets get the tactical nuke hose out and give them the nuke watering they so desperately want and deserve


156 posted on 11/21/2005 5:09:41 PM PST by RocketJsqurl
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To: john drake
I suspect I've read a lot more on these matters than you have and have known both Muslims and Christians from the Middle Est (primarily Iraq and Iran) for 35 years. I have no clue, huh?

You said simply that I need to read more history. Maybe you meant I need to read more history on the middle-east. The fact is I doubt I could read more history if I wanted to and that's what you have no clue about.

157 posted on 11/21/2005 6:00:26 PM PST by bkepley
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