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IRAQ WAR SHOWDOWN ON HILL -- PULLOUT DEBATE ON CSPAN NOW - LIVE THREAD
drudge ^ | nov. 18, 2005 | Drudge

Posted on 11/18/2005 12:30:42 PM PST by blogblogginaway

Edited on 11/18/2005 12:41:17 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

GOP Pulls Fast One... Tells Dems: Pull Troops Now? Okay, then let's vote!!!!! Tonight. 7 p.m. in House... Ultimate showdown...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; beltwaywarzone; calltheirbluff; crazykucinich; cutandrun; defeatocrats; delay; democratmeltdown; devolve; dirtydims; gop; gwot; hypocrats; iraq; iraqwarshowdown; murtha; murtharesolution; nomorecnnsedition; standandeliver; stoptheleft; sunshinepatriot; vietnamsymdrome; votehillaryvote; waronterror
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To: nopardons

st chuckles still lives? after the fast fry on the President's speech thread i thought the kitties were in full attack mode.

another five bucks into the kitty for the next freepathon then.

these stealth troll pools are gonna break me

;)

'night all


7,961 posted on 11/19/2005 12:08:49 AM PST by rickylc
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To: dread78645
They also must not want the government to be in Iraq and Afghanistan then, don't want tax cuts either, and don't really
want a Representative who does anything of value.
7,962 posted on 11/19/2005 12:09:42 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Darksheare
Wow, it's a 248 page report. Yeah, the link worked for me.

But nevertheless...

Or, "Nevermind what I said previously."

I sure don't recall hearing or reading any claims that their drones could reach our shores.

Add 'epic' to the indicator list.

G'night all. Fun catch!

7,963 posted on 11/19/2005 12:09:56 AM PST by polymuser (I wish the Republicans had a majority in Congress.)
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To: polymuser

LOL, yes.
I liked his comments about that.


7,964 posted on 11/19/2005 12:10:28 AM PST by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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To: rickylc
You hit the abuse button; maybe they'll listen to you.

Good night and pleasant dreams. :-)

7,965 posted on 11/19/2005 12:11:13 AM PST by nopardons
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To: defenderSD

I from Massachusetts and this is the best night us conservatives have had in a year....what brilliant move.If you only knew how many people I can shut up now.
"Bush lied!" Oh he did? then you better ask why your rep.voted to stay in a liars war then....bwahahahaha!!


7,966 posted on 11/19/2005 12:13:17 AM PST by TShaunK
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To: St.Chuck

"But nevertheless, the drones were portrayed as being capable of delivering a chemical attack to our shores. "

No they weren't.
Lying again.
And, the link works.
Three people so far have made the link work.
It just isn't your night, is it?
Make sure when you write up your report, you spell my handle corectly.
"Darksheare" with n 'e' at the end.

Be sure to say I'm mean spirited too.


7,967 posted on 11/19/2005 12:14:37 AM PST by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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To: fuzzthatwuz
Hopefully you can explain Murtha's comment found here?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1525055/posts

If Murtha did hear of the Battle of the Bulge and respected the lessons of history he would not have used the letters of grieving parents and wounded soldiers to manipulate the vote and political discourse the way he did. Rep. Murtha would not have said the things he did say tonight if he learned from the Battle of the Bulge. If he could lecture on the subject of the Battle of the Bulge I doubt very much that I would be interested in his points of view. I would prefer listening to Victor Davis Hanson or Thomas Sowell but NOT Mr. Murtha after tonight's display.
7,968 posted on 11/19/2005 12:15:23 AM PST by Chgogal (Democrats cut and run, Marines don't. Democrats are silent and millions die. Which to use?)
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To: St.Chuck
"I'll take an egotistical Joe Wilson any day over Max Boot...(Wilson) was responsible for the lives of some 800 Americans and described as a hero for his work there...a buttress of support for Mr. Wilson's credibility"

"I think Mr. Wilson did a great sevice to our country..."

"Mr. Wilson did not tell any lies in his July 6, 2003 essay"

"All this other stuff about possible inconsistencies in later publications of Mr. Wilson are really collateral issues"

"Mr. Wilson's contribution was to expose the overreach of the administration"

"I oppose the war for the reason that it has created a blind loyalty to a duplicitous government leadership"

"I do regret that Mr. Bush chose to invade Iraq on this premise ("to free 26 million Iraqis")"

A Joe Wilson apologist and a peace-at-any-cost, throne-sniffing mendicant. You're a small man after small ideas, Chuck.

7,969 posted on 11/19/2005 12:17:51 AM PST by StAnDeliver
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To: Darksheare

In other words, the link works, but only if it is made to work. Yes, you ARE mean spirited.


7,970 posted on 11/19/2005 12:18:47 AM PST by BagelFace
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To: BagelFace

Heh heh heh.

I clicked on it and said "Save target as", and it worked.
Someone else got it to work in a browser window..


7,971 posted on 11/19/2005 12:19:49 AM PST by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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To: Darksheare

I knew a girl in Amsterdam what worked in a browser window. Which reminds me... I'm going to bed. Good night!


7,972 posted on 11/19/2005 12:21:31 AM PST by BagelFace
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To: BagelFace

I'm really glad I wasn't drinking anything right then...


7,973 posted on 11/19/2005 12:22:21 AM PST by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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To: nutmeg

Thanks for the link re who voted and how.


7,974 posted on 11/19/2005 12:24:27 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Watch the rats re Iraq in 1998: http://media1.streamtoyou.com/rnc/111505.wmv)
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To: All
"Surrender John" Murtha has an interesting track record:

Democratic Surrender Monkeys, The Party of Islam, and 2004

Congressman John Murtha (d-PA) was on Hardball The other night, he sounded As If he was prepared to negotiate a cease-fire with Al Quada. ...
 
 Newsweek:Bush and Republicans Have Little Margin for Error,Have ...
John Murtha, Jr. - Democrat - US Representative from Pennsylvania. Implicated in the Abscam sting, in which FBI agents impersonating Arab businessmen ...
 
 Murtha bill a boon to brother's firm
John P. Murtha, top Democrat on the House defense appropriations subcommittee, boasted about the money he secured to create jobs in his Pennsylvania ...
 
 FBI Searches Home of California Congressman at Center of Federal Probe
John P. Murtha, the Top Democrat on the house Defense Appropriations Subcommittee, boasted about the money he secured to create jobs in his Pennsylvania ...
 
"Saddam will back down" says US Rep. Murtha, ranking member, defense appropriations subcommittee Open this result in new window
 
 'Cheney is vice president for torture' (Alert: Another traitor in ...
Admiral Turner's remarks were echoed by Republican Senator John McCain, ... Anyone who saw Kerry and Murtha hatefully holding forth today can envision ...
 
 LA Times: Firm Owner Who Gave Kerry Money Faces Sentence
John Murtha, D-Pa., and former Rep. Joe Scarborough, R-Fla., All received donations From Majumder.Hmmm. more elephants than jackasses. ...
 
There's more:

In early 2004, Murtha reportedly leaned on U.S. Navy officials to sign a contract to transfer the Hunters Point Shipyard to the city of San Francisco, according to the San Francisco Chronicle. A company called Lennar Inc. had right to the land, and Laurence Pelosi, nephew to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), was an executive with the firm at that time.

Murtha also inserted earmarks in defense bills that steered millions of dollars in federal research funds toward companies owned by children of fellow Pennsylvania Rep. Paul Kanjorski (D). ..

2,296 posted on 11/18/2005 7:44:27 PM EST by Alia

7,975 posted on 11/19/2005 12:26:01 AM PST by backhoe ("It's so easy to spend someone else's money." [My Dad, circa 1958])
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To: Grampa Dave; nutmeg

You'll love the comments by user St.Chuck in this thread.
A small rundown of some highlights was posted here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1524772/posts?page=7969#7969


7,976 posted on 11/19/2005 12:26:14 AM PST by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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To: backhoe

BIG bumpity BUMP!


7,977 posted on 11/19/2005 12:27:25 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Grampa Dave; nutmeg

And then there's his comments IN this thread, sorry I wasn't very clear in last post, and he claims that the Dems never said "immediate withdraw"...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1524772/posts?page=7415#7415


7,978 posted on 11/19/2005 12:28:33 AM PST by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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To: St.Chuck
"Democrats don't support an immediate withdrawal"

MARGARET WARNER: Finally, Congressman, do you think the fact that you as a defense hawk have now come to this position, do you think this represents a tipping point? Are you hearing from other Democrats who voted for the war that they're coming to this view themselves?

REP. JOHN MURTHA: I hope this is a watershed. I hope a lot of people think about what I've said and we can begin to withdraw our troops immediately from that area and put them on the horizon, or over the horizon, so if they have to they can go back in.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/july-dec05/withdrawal_11-17.html


St.Chuck, tell me what Murtha is saying in his quote?
7,979 posted on 11/19/2005 12:30:48 AM PST by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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To: St.Chuck
"Democrats don't support an immediate withdrawal"

MARGARET WARNER: Finally, Congressman, do you think the fact that you as a defense hawk have now come to this position, do you think this represents a tipping point? Are you hearing from other Democrats who voted for the war that they're coming to this view themselves?

REP. JOHN MURTHA: I hope this is a watershed. I hope a lot of people think about what I've said and we can begin to withdraw our troops immediately from that area and put them on the horizon, or over the horizon, so if they have to they can go back in.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/july-dec05/withdrawal_11-17.html


St.Chuck, Nancy Pelosi tonight said that 'Republicans' cannot handle the 'truth'.
St.Chuck, you claimed that the Dems never said 'immediate withdraw', yet they have.
Who can't handle the truth St.Chuck?
7,980 posted on 11/19/2005 12:34:18 AM PST by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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