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IRAQ WAR SHOWDOWN ON HILL -- PULLOUT DEBATE ON CSPAN NOW - LIVE THREAD
drudge ^ | nov. 18, 2005 | Drudge

Posted on 11/18/2005 12:30:42 PM PST by blogblogginaway

Edited on 11/18/2005 12:41:17 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

GOP Pulls Fast One... Tells Dems: Pull Troops Now? Okay, then let's vote!!!!! Tonight. 7 p.m. in House... Ultimate showdown...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; beltwaywarzone; calltheirbluff; crazykucinich; cutandrun; defeatocrats; delay; democratmeltdown; devolve; dirtydims; gop; gwot; hypocrats; iraq; iraqwarshowdown; murtha; murtharesolution; nomorecnnsedition; standandeliver; stoptheleft; sunshinepatriot; vietnamsymdrome; votehillaryvote; waronterror
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To: mhking

Thank god he has stopped talking.


5,321 posted on 11/18/2005 7:23:03 PM PST by TheLion
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington


Sorry, but Murtha has no class--he's just an ass


and been caught by the short hairs too
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1524980/posts


5,322 posted on 11/18/2005 7:23:04 PM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Why wait for the Rats to do it. We should create such a list on FR and use it. Think how much bandwidth we could save when discussing their nonsense.


5,323 posted on 11/18/2005 7:23:06 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: NapkinUser
CNN is doing a nice piece on Murtha. Why am I not surprised?

More media coordination with the Democrats? Maybe he's the new "fortunate son?"

-PJ

5,324 posted on 11/18/2005 7:23:07 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: doug from upland

I wish I knew why we didn't just put his resolution up, so that this speech was to be HIS resolution, so we could see how many democrats were really supporting him.

A "redeployment of our troops". But he isn't admitting where he wants them redeployed to. Since earlier he said we were short on troops.

We are NOT the primary target. A LOT more iraqis are being killed than we are.


5,325 posted on 11/18/2005 7:23:13 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Coffee_drinker

You know what, this is the same guy who wanted the draft and his biggest supporters are mil and Lockheed, Boeing... that's what this is about. The troops will tell you, the older stuff works better than the new... whether weapons or not. Why isn't he doing a bill on what they need? He has been saying this crap (with Pelosi) for 3 years.

I ask, if he wants to take them out, what's the point of sending them back in or redeployment? This isn't a two year old who's acting up... this is serious business. This guy can't believe this.

The "NO" Vote - Peterson, Murtha Screw Our Soldiers
http://www.seamuspress.com/archives/rep_john_murtha/

Excerpt:
Peterson wasn't the only Pennsylvania legislator opposed to the pay raise for soldiers. Murtha (D) not only voted against it but he also argued against it on the floor. Murtha also voted to raise his own pay (but didn't even bother to change it afterwards). I suppose that adding to their individual wealth is more important to them than helping out the soldiers they put at risk (remember both of these hypocrits supported the war).

I find his decision interesting (not just because he gave it with Pelosi either); Check out who his top contributors have been, then go to top industries and to the 2005-2006 profile:
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/allcontrib.asp?CID=N00001408

From Murtha's website:

Congressman Murtha has worked hard to bring thousands of long-term, family-sustaining jobs to Western Pennsylvania. With the disappearance of the coal and steel jobs that for more than a century were the lifeblood of the area, he pushed the region in a new direction, intent on diversifying the economy to help insulate it from future shocks. In the early 1990s, new companies in an industry unfamiliar in Western Pennsylvania - defense - began to spring up, bringing more than 5,000 jobs to the district he represents. He founded the House Steel Caucus and has brought millions of dollars to the United Mine Workers to retrain displaced miners and train new miners.

The above is from his web site. He represents the defeated, rotting industrial heart of Pennsylvania. Losing is an attitude. What pet pork project did his district not get? There has to be something really interesting to this flip flop. (From another thread)


5,326 posted on 11/18/2005 7:23:14 PM PST by AliVeritas (''I'd rather have Jihadis in front of me than Democrats behind me.'' Go GOP!)
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington

Whatever Murtha did in the past in the military does not count any more. This act of treachery condemns him to the ash heap of history and brands him with the label of traitor.


5,327 posted on 11/18/2005 7:23:16 PM PST by DarthVader (Do something positive for your country today: Punch an America hating leftie in the mouth.)
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To: Sam Hill

Thanks for the info !!


5,328 posted on 11/18/2005 7:23:22 PM PST by W-Girl
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To: nutmeg

I believe the generals on the ground, Murtah.


5,329 posted on 11/18/2005 7:23:24 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
Without naming him, he is attacking the President.

No he ISN'T. The moron moonbats earlier did. Murtha is questioning policy, not the President personally. That's a big difference. This guy is more effective than the loonies on the Left.

5,330 posted on 11/18/2005 7:23:26 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (Member of the "JimRob Mob" -- I Love Free Republic!)
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To: Howlin

It's a dark dark moment in our history.


5,331 posted on 11/18/2005 7:23:27 PM PST by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: rodguy911; Howlin

Murtha should have SHUT UP after he drank the Kook-Aid.


5,332 posted on 11/18/2005 7:23:27 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: SerpentDove

There was a thread yesterday...that said that 202 Congresscritters signed a letter backing Weldon's investigation into Able Danger...

So it can't be that...

OH, yeah-=---Murtha just said our troops are the cause of the terrorism????


5,333 posted on 11/18/2005 7:23:28 PM PST by Txsleuth (9/11-NEVER FORGET, NEVER AGAIN!--Americans do NOT SURRENDER!)
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To: TheLion

You damn Son of a..

I think Iraqi's risking their Lives to vote while you stand there pontificating to cut and run makes a damn more of an impression of who is committed here.

Go to hell.


5,334 posted on 11/18/2005 7:23:32 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington

Whatever Murtha did in the past in the military does not count any more. This act of treachery condemns him to the ash heap of history and brands him with the label of traitor.


5,335 posted on 11/18/2005 7:23:35 PM PST by DarthVader (Do something positive for your country today: Punch an America hating leftie in the mouth.)
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To: Txsleuth
This is sounding like a surrender speech.

Disgusting.

He lied again. 80% of the Iraqui's oppose the US Troops.

5,336 posted on 11/18/2005 7:23:41 PM PST by AGreatPer
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To: rodguy911

I have been for term limits for 20 years!


5,337 posted on 11/18/2005 7:23:42 PM PST by WakeUpAndVote (Member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy since 1992!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Exactly... don't you find that strange?


5,338 posted on 11/18/2005 7:23:43 PM PST by AliVeritas (''I'd rather have Jihadis in front of me than Democrats behind me.'' Go GOP!)
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To: ErnBatavia
Just did a quick CNN flip...they are ejaculating all over themselves with orgasmic MurthaLove.

Apparently there's a new Al-Zarqawi tape surfacing...no details yet.

5,339 posted on 11/18/2005 7:23:44 PM PST by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

He's also angry for the apparent burying of Able Danger, and he's getting zero help from the WH.


5,340 posted on 11/18/2005 7:23:45 PM PST by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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