Posted on 11/17/2005 4:20:47 PM PST by churchillbuff
Don't know how many of you caught Rep. John Murtha's very angry, very moving speech just now in which he called on the White House to institute an immediate withdrawal of US troops from Iraq. CNN didn't air the entire thing, but as I listened to it, I could feel the ground shift. Murtha, as you know, is not a Pelosi-style Chardonnay Democrat; he's a crusty retired career Marine who reminds me of the kinds of beer-slugging Democrats we used to have before the cultural left took over the party. Murtha, a conservative Dem who voted for the war, talked in detail about the sacrifices being borne by our soldiers and their families, and about his visits out to Walter Reed to look after the maimed, and how we've had enough, it's time to come home. He was hell on the president too.
If tough, non-effete guys like Murtha are willing to go this far, and can make the case in ways that Red America can relate to -- and listening to him talk was like listening to my dad, who's about the same age, and his hunting buddies -- then the president is in big trouble. I'm sure there's going to be an anti-Murtha pile-on in the conservative blogosphere, but from where I sit, conservatives would be fools not to take this man seriously.
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Murtha takes no comments via e-mail or anything that I can find. This pig has to go down. (Not nice, but he looks like a pig).
What war do you like?
He closed it off because they got shelled today. Every Marine is PO'd at him.
Are your kidding? Over a year ago he was lamenting the war was unwinable, he hasn't changed, just another rat carrying on as usual.
Call me a fool then.
I cannot see any possible scenario to our national strategic benefit from an immediate unconditional withdrawal of US troops from Iraq.
And nice timing, Congressman Jack. With Iraq national elections only 3 weeks away, the extremist islamist insurgents needed a morale booster. And any Iraqi who was thinking of sticking his/her neck out, defying the insurgents to vote, and trusting America to stand by its commitment to their fledgling democracy ... needed a kick in the a$$ from the USA "democrat" party.
Someone has Murtha's arm twisted good. Don't let anyone think this man is doing this because of his honor. He is doing this to save his party from what he thinks could be his party's last battle. This is a calculated attempt to force the White House to stand down, it means that the White House is being effective. I say smack the senial mfr down, he sold his soul for the lies of his party the lies that I am so tired of hearing.
http://tigerhawk.blogspot.com/2005/10/lt-gen-david-petraeus-speaks-at.html
October 1, 2005 - Keynote Speaker: "Lt. General David Petraeus"
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You should be able to see his slides, some of which were very illuminating, especially in full screen view.
I listened to Fred Barnes on FoxNews with Brit and Fred nailed him...and I found what he said sooo right on.
I have military friends talk about Iraq and their story is totally different than what the lousy media continues to display. It makes them really angry because LOTS AND LOTS of great things are taking place in Iraq.
I wonder HOW MANY TIMES John Murtha has been to Iraq and really set down and talked to those soldiers? He's talking to families who've had sons over there 3 times. I've got family that's been in Iraq and Afghanistan 4 times....that's his job. And he's not complaining.
Murtha is 73 years old.
We should begin pulling out around February or so and be out of there by August.
WE WILL NOT REWRITE HISTORY & WE WILL NOT REPEAT HISTORY!
He gives the man's argument credence because he is....crusty?
What RINO-style quivering....this debate is long overdue, and I am happy to see the Dems come out of their hidey-hole and their false patriotism on this war, and finally be honest in their defeatism and quitting spirit.
The Dems do not want to be on this turf, but they apparently feel bold enough to try and pull a Vietnam here. Time for some political ass-whipping.
Oh, did the earth move for you too? I'm sure it did for all other America-hating liberals, democrats and assorted socialist pukes as well. Obviously Murtha has gone soft and is full of democrat horse hocky.
Most of that career was as a nondeploying, nonactive reservist.
If Murtha really gave a damn about the grunts on the ground in Iraq he'd get them a decent rifle. Until then he can STFU.
Too true! An immediate withdrawal would give the Islamists their greatest victory ever. It would invite 100 9/11's by validating their twisted strategy of terrorism.
Murtha is a brain addled idiot or a traitor, calling for the defeat of our country by calling for unilateral withdrawal from Iraq.
I think he wants us to be defeated to make his earlier "unwinnable" false prediction come true.
You and Murtha belong at a different website.
Tell me how his arguments for an immediate withdrawal are valid and credible and not a politically timed grandstand while the pres is overseas.
So what if he is a Nam vet. BFD.
He is one of the assholes calling for a draft.
He is throwing a hissy fit because he cannot personally micromanage this conflict from his armchair in DC.
Screw him and the horse he rode in on, senator or not.
He does not speak for current veterans, and active duty folks.
Murtha's tirade is a last gasp effort, the Republican response, Woodward's testimony and Delay's imminent aquittal/dismissal of charges has them desperate. Their whole sordid plot is about to explode in their faces.
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