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To: A Ruckus of Dogs

"I think you are referring to managing a farm. You don't need a high school course to show you how to pick apples off a tree. Some crops can be harvested with machines and some still need human workers. Some crops are more labor intensive than others - vanilla for one.

"I remember reading an article about vineyard owners in California. They were saying they couldn't get enough workers, because the construction industry was paying more. They even admitted the majority of their workers were Mexicans and many were illegal. So, there's even competition for illegals."

Oh, no doubt if you're talking about stoop labor we can bring in endless hoards of cheap labor. And, as the article suggests, we can find laborers willing to work even more cheaply than the Mexicans. But what if improvements in machinery further reduces the number of farm laborers needed? What else will the fruit pickers be qualified to do? Will they go on welfare? Commit crime? Or go to a university or technical school to shift careers at taxpayer expense?

The problem is we're importing millions of poorly educated, unskilled peoples who don't have a western outlook. This is not the type of citizenry needed to continue our values and ensure our democratic way of life. I'll pay more for a head of lettuce rather than have the increase in crime, misuse of hospital emergency rooms, and welfare programs by Hispanics in my area. (Most of whom don't seem to be the least interested in assimilating.)

I've travelled in Mexico on a number of occasions, liked it and the people. I am sick of moving Mexico inside of our borders, however.


39 posted on 11/17/2005 10:54:46 AM PST by reelfoot
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To: reelfoot
But what if improvements in machinery further reduces the number of farm laborers needed? What else will the fruit pickers be qualified to do? Will they go on welfare? Commit crime? Or go to a university or technical school to shift careers at taxpayer expense?

The same thing was said when machines replaced factory workers and that was in a period when we had far more industry than we do now. Everybody said what will all these people do now? Somehow they found something to do without burdening the rest of society.

The problem is we're importing millions of poorly educated, unskilled peoples who don't have a western outlook. This is not the type of citizenry needed to continue our values and ensure our democratic way of life.

Most of the Europeans that came in the last immigration wave were just that – poor, unskilled, uneducated, etc ..They did find a way to make it. Oh sure some of them got into crime, like the Mafia, but the argument you’re making is already a century old and it’s long been discredited. A lot of those countries did not have our “western outlook”. People came from countries with dictatorships or communists or what have you.

Now before you accuse me of being in favor of massive illegal immigration –I’m not. But if an economy needs unskilled workers, it will begger the government to get them legally.

I'll pay more for a head of lettuce rather than have the increase in crime, misuse of hospital emergency rooms, and welfare programs by Hispanics in my area. (Most of whom don't seem to be the least interested in assimilating.)

That’s you. But the average shopper buys the cheaper product. One reason for the phenomenal success of Wal-Mart.

44 posted on 11/17/2005 11:29:43 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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