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To: reelfoot
But what if improvements in machinery further reduces the number of farm laborers needed? What else will the fruit pickers be qualified to do? Will they go on welfare? Commit crime? Or go to a university or technical school to shift careers at taxpayer expense?

The same thing was said when machines replaced factory workers and that was in a period when we had far more industry than we do now. Everybody said what will all these people do now? Somehow they found something to do without burdening the rest of society.

The problem is we're importing millions of poorly educated, unskilled peoples who don't have a western outlook. This is not the type of citizenry needed to continue our values and ensure our democratic way of life.

Most of the Europeans that came in the last immigration wave were just that – poor, unskilled, uneducated, etc ..They did find a way to make it. Oh sure some of them got into crime, like the Mafia, but the argument you’re making is already a century old and it’s long been discredited. A lot of those countries did not have our “western outlook”. People came from countries with dictatorships or communists or what have you.

Now before you accuse me of being in favor of massive illegal immigration –I’m not. But if an economy needs unskilled workers, it will begger the government to get them legally.

I'll pay more for a head of lettuce rather than have the increase in crime, misuse of hospital emergency rooms, and welfare programs by Hispanics in my area. (Most of whom don't seem to be the least interested in assimilating.)

That’s you. But the average shopper buys the cheaper product. One reason for the phenomenal success of Wal-Mart.

44 posted on 11/17/2005 11:29:43 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs
"The same thing was said when machines replaced factory workers and that was in a period when we had far more industry than we do now. Everybody said what will all these people do now? Somehow they found something to do without burdening the rest of society."

That was a different pool of immigrants. Look at the European countries and then look at the Latin American countries. We're not talking about equal achievement levels here.

"That’s you. But the average shopper buys the cheaper product. One reason for the phenomenal success of Wal-Mart."

The average shopper, even one who shops at Wally-World, is also opposed to massive immigration from our southern borders. They know for the couple of bucks they may be saving on a product they are paying increased taxes to make up for it by having to build new schools (staffed by bilingual teachers) and hiring Spanish translators for courts, and paying increased medical costs, automobile insurance costs, etc., etc., ad nauseum. It's just that the Wally-World shopper's opinion doesn't seem to count for much because our elitist leaders refuse to act on this issue.

Our culture is being changed, and not for the better.
47 posted on 11/17/2005 11:54:59 AM PST by reelfoot
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