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L’Intifada en Los Estados Unidos
National Review ^ | 17 November 2005 | Mark Krikorian

Posted on 11/17/2005 9:03:55 AM PST by RKV

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To: nicmarlo
The drain on our economy can be blamed in liberals who foster an enable the entitlement mentality that exists.

It gets foisted on native born Americans as well.

The disproportionate entitlement mentality, however, does not and has not resided with European immigrants

How could it? Entitlements weren't around in those days. You came to this country and it was sink or swim. About a third of the Europeans couldn't make it and went back.

Today's Europeans, however, do have an entitlement mentality. Their whole societies are built around a welfare state.

101 posted on 11/18/2005 5:57:47 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs

So, it's your belief that European emigration came to a halt after FDR was President.


102 posted on 11/18/2005 6:03:07 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Stingy Dog
Here's what I said "The number of Muslims in the US is statistically miniscule, about equal to the number of Buddhists."

To which you replied "I'm sorry to say, but you either have reading comprehension problems or PC (read: fear) made you not say what you really wanted to say."

There are six million Muslims in the US. There are about 300 million people in the US. 6 divided by 300 is 2 percent.

Who is it that had the comprehension problem here?

105 posted on 11/18/2005 9:53:01 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: RKV

Really, it is quite simple.

Mexicans and other Latinos pour into the United States because there are jobs for them that pay much better than anything they can do at home.

They are able to do it because the US does not enforce immigration policy or labor law.

The US doesn't do that for a variety of reasons.

On the Left, the Democrats understand that the Hispanics are their political salvation. All of their other core constituencies are dwindling demographically, but the Hispanic population is surging. The article suggests that there are 11 million Mexicans in America. This is low. There are probably 20 million illegals in America, and the number grows both through continued immigration and natural increase. Those born here are Americans. They are poor because their parents were marginal. Poor people overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

Now, religiously, most Mexicans and other Latinos are pro-life. But these higher social concerns take a backseat to economic matters, and always will. The Democrats will always get the majority of the Hispanic vote, for as long as Hispanics are poor. Immigrants will be poor.

Many illegals vote. Democrat political machine in Democrat controlled areas get the illegals out to vote. The thrust of amnesty, which Democrats support and will instate whenever they can, is to massively increase the Democratic voter base.

Republicans are doing nothing to STOP this.
Nor, apparently, do they even acknowledge the political threat. For some mysterious reason Republicans think that the laws of economics won't apply to Hispanics, and that poor Hispanics won't vote their pocketbooks, which is to say, vote for Democrat social programs.

The only rational Republican stance would be to close and police the border, and heavily police the interior, deporting all illegals.

But the Republicans don't see it that way.

Of course Mexicans living here, and naturalized here, retain their Mexican citizenship. This will cut one of two ways in the future.


106 posted on 11/18/2005 11:27:36 AM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: don'tbedenied
I would not be using the word racist if he had simply listed problems associated with immigration instead of claiming that Mexican immigrants would soon be rioting, burning cars and apparently praising Allah.

Forgive me for disagreeing, but I believe you would cry “racist” regardless. I see you’ve been a member of this forum since 2001. What have you been reading?

Are you trying to tell us that you don’t see any problems among the recent millions of Mexican, mostly illegal or amnestied migrants? Any massive migration, especially illegal entry ALWAYS has serious problems. Show us one time in history it didn’t. Look at this nation in it’s beginning. Wasn’t too kind to the inhabitants was it? It does not MATTER what color their skin is. Only a fool judges people by the color of their skin. Good Mexican Americans don’t like this mess anymore than we “whities” do. Are they racist?

Go search some articles, if you care to know, which I doubt. There are plenty about the burning of American Flags, with pictures, by the way. There are numerous accounts and photos of the many vicious attacks on property and persons, some old ladies. Too many of these new “arrivals” wave only the Mexican Flag. They shout in Mexico at our sports teams, “OSAMA! OSAMA!”. They smuggle Arabs, Chinese, Koreans, ANY one that wants across that border. ANY one.

Read about the conversion of thousands of Hispanics to Islam. 13 mosques and schools in Mexico. More in the US. They march in our streets, demanding “their” rights. 95% of the outstanding murder warrants in LA are for Illegals. MS-13 is considered the MOST dangerous and largest membered gang in this country. US citizens property and safety is being destroyed daily by these entrants. Many of them here on this forum.

Many of these immigrants are innocents, being used by any one who would exploit them and make a profit off them, usually one of their own “color”. They are trapped in the “culture” of organized crime that exists within the Mexican Immigrant community.

And if you don’t know about these things, please educate yourself before you call a good man like Krikorian a racist.

107 posted on 11/18/2005 6:28:09 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: WatchingInAmazement
Check my posts this was the first time I used the racism card.

I don't know the author but equating Moslem Arabs with Mexican Christians for the purpose of scaring people smells like racism to me. Sorry.

BTW your concern about 13 mosques in a country of what, 150 million, seems a little attenuated.

Thanks for the concern regarding the extent of my reading and research. Nothing like getting personal when you don't have much logic behind your argument.
108 posted on 11/18/2005 6:36:37 PM PST by don'tbedenied ( D)
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To: janetgreen
I grew up in a community full of Italian and Slav legal immigrants, proud people who didn't want a cent from the government, and who became productive members of this community. They ALL learned to speak our language too, without any bilingual instruction.

I married into a family of such immigrants that lived in LA. They all learned English. But here’s the irony. About 1980, before the last failed amnesty, the Mexican “immigrants” started arriving in mass. My inlaws owned some clothing stores and had to not only perfect their English, but now their Spanish. Those immigrants, who came here properly, now have to learn English and Spanish! It’s nuts. And damned unfair.

109 posted on 11/18/2005 7:00:19 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: don'tbedenied

Is Arab a race? Is Mexican a race?


110 posted on 11/18/2005 7:00:22 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ("This is the sort of English up with which I will not put." Winston Churchill)
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