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US suspends 'war on terror' trials after court ruling
Yahoo News ^ | 11/15/05

Posted on 11/15/2005 3:22:43 PM PST by Valin

The United States suspended its controversial military trials for 'war on terror' detainees after a ruling by a federal judge. Following the judge's action on Monday, the Defense Department said it had postponed the first trial hearing of accused "Australian Taliban" David Hicks, which was scheduled to start Friday at the Guantanamo Bay naval base in Cuba. "The courts have intervened, as I understand it, and things are off for a period until the courts sort through things," US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said.

Bryan Whitman, a Pentagon spokesman, said the government has not decided whether to appeal the ruling by US District Judge Colleen Kollar Kotelly. "This is something that happened last night. The government will obviously review the rulings of the court and make its decision from there," he said.

Kotelly ruled that the Hicks trial be suspended ahead of an anticipated ruling by the US Supreme Court on the legality of the special military tribunals set up after the September 11, 2001 attacks. Whitman stressed that the ruling applied only to Hicks, but no dates have been set for any other trials to start. Kotelly said the suspension would remain in effect "pending the issuance of a final and ultimate decision by the Supreme Court in that case." The Supreme Court has said it would give a ruling in 2006 on the military trials, which have faced criticism at home and abroad.

Hicks, 30, was the first of nine detainees to face trial by the special military commissions, which have been condemned by civil legal groups and even many of the military lawyers defending the detainees. A convert to Islam who was captured in Afghanistan in late 2001, Hicks faces charges of conspiracy to commit war crimes, attempted murder by an unprivileged belligerent and aiding the enemy. He has denied the charges.

Despite the Supreme Court intervention, the Pentagon had wanted Hicks' trial to proceed, while officials said they were aware that a court could order a suspension. The Supreme Court said last week it would rule next year on the legality of the military commissions in response to a challenge by lawyers for another detainee, Saleh Ahmed Hamdan, a Yemeni. There have been a series of court challenges to the tribunals.

A federal appeals court in July reaffirmed President George W. Bush's authority to order trials of "war on terror" detainees by the commissions in Hamdan's case. Hicks' lawyers filed a petition in federal court last week seeking a stay of his trial pending the Supreme Court ruling. The Pentagon brought war crimes charges against five more detainees a week ago, bringing to nine the number who face trial by military commission, on the same day that the Supreme Court said it would rule on the legality of the process.

Nearly 500 other detainees are being held without charge at the military-run prison at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base in Cuba. Most of the inmates were captured in Afghanistan and Pakistan after a US-led offensive toppled the Taliban government in Kabul in late 2001. The United States has declared the detainees illegal enemy combatants who are not protected by the Geneva Conventions.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: colleenkollarkotelly; davidhicks; detainees; gitmo; kollarkotelly; kotelly; ruling; terrortrials
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To: conservative physics

Last time I checked, the Constitution did indeed give congress such oversight. Perhaps you should check again?


141 posted on 11/16/2005 9:00:13 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: conservative physics
Article I Section 8, clause 14: To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces

Solely the job of congress. Are you familiar with the UCMJ? Handed down from congress my friend. Congress makes the rules.

142 posted on 11/16/2005 9:04:31 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Valin

I'm glad that the Government will wait a while before they appeal. They should wait until Alito is in for O'Conner, and another lib steps down in the comming year.


143 posted on 11/16/2005 9:35:48 PM PST by right-wingin_It
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To: conservative physics

There is nothing separate between the judiciary and congress.

Most all of congress is in the legal profession, and the bills are vetted by lawyers.

To be truly separate, there should be no member of the legal profession in Congress.


144 posted on 11/17/2005 4:28:49 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: gondramB
Sorry, but BS.

The Nuremberg trials were conducted by a group of Victors and allies.

We have none. What we do have are entire legal organizations devoted solely to the destruction of the US.

Not to mention a myriad of Socialist states wanting the same.

Just shoot them and be done with it.
145 posted on 11/17/2005 4:32:26 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952

I say we give Fidel Castro a really nice present...turn all of them loose in Cuba, and tell Fidel "Merry Christmas". That would solve all of our problems really quick.


146 posted on 11/17/2005 4:43:18 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: bill1952

" Just shoot them and be done with it."

To my knowledge we have never had a situation where the Federal government systematically executed people without trials in our history. Do you think Al Quaida is the biggest threat we have faced?


147 posted on 11/17/2005 6:29:34 AM PST by gondramB
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To: Melas

you are correct, I was wrong.


148 posted on 11/17/2005 9:33:43 AM PST by conservative physics
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To: gondramB

To your knowledge, have you ever heard of military trials and summary execution?

There are so many examples of such from the Revolutionary War to Korea, that I doubt your veracity.

And thats what we are writing about here.
Speedy military trials & punishment.

Not the ACLU trying to neuter us with endless civilian complaints.


149 posted on 11/17/2005 9:52:42 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: NormsRevenge

That was the first thing I looked up too...


150 posted on 11/17/2005 10:22:07 AM PST by mosquitobite (As the Iraqis stand up, we will stand down.)
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To: bill1952

"
There are so many examples of such from the Revolutionary War to Korea, that I doubt your veracity. "

Since you think I am being dishonest, I at least appreciate you being polite about it.


Let's leave the revolutionary war aside since we didn't have much government pr infrastructure in place.

But since then i have to tell you I am not aware of the Federal government systematically executing either civilians or captured soldiers without trials.

You changed the topic when said they had military trials. I guess you are gonna think I'm either dishonest or naive again but I think of executions following military trials not being normal for enemy soldiers, even irregulars.

Now for spies, I've heard of that. And I've heard of executions when there were no facilities for holding and it was unsafe to release.

But even if you are right about the history I think we are mistaken to not afford captured Al Quaeada some kind of rights -either as POWs or as civilian terrorists.

As POW's they could be held til the end of the war. I'm not sure why that is not the right choice if we don't want to let them go.


151 posted on 11/17/2005 6:48:18 PM PST by gondramB
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To: gondramB
The trials need to be more like the Nuremburg trials and less like a secret tribunal.

Please don't confuse this for sympathy with traitors - if he fought with the enemy against his country then he should hang.. but first he should have a fair trial with proper charges, a good lawyer and and a public hearing.

I agree 100%. Well put.

152 posted on 11/18/2005 11:13:30 AM PST by conserv13
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