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To: GarySpFc

That's OK.

Russell Yates is and was a "rocket scientist" for NASA who let his wife have massive depresive episodes by knowingly allowing her to wean herself off of medications so they could have more children, and got mixed up with a freaky preacher who lived in a bus and dressed in devil costumes.

Oh, yeah and she was so crazy she killed all their children.

"Rocket scientist" means nothing about lucidity.

Here, this man is either crazy or intentionally trying to deceive people with mumbo jumbo --- which is not Christian in the least.

The Sun heats the Earth; ergo, the 2nd law does not apply to anything going on in Earth until the Sun runs out of hydrogen and we all die in a super-nova.

Period.

Anyone who says the 2nd Law applies to the Earth in this context is a liar or an idiot spouting bad science.

Indeed, I would venture as far as saying that they are willing or unknowing agents of Satan, in that they are making Christians look dishonest or stupid or both.


142 posted on 11/14/2005 1:52:10 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: MeanWestTexan
The Sun heats the Earth; ergo, the 2nd law does not apply to anything going on in Earth...

We have to be a little careful of this kind of statement because the Second Law does have effects on Earth. It keeps us from ever making a certain class of perpetual motion machines, for instance.

The latter frustration led Maxwell to postulate a very hypothetical demon to thwart the second law and reset a heat engine to its initial condition for free. (It was eventually shown that even a hypothetical demon isn't enough unless it operates by pure and utter magic.) The second law operates here and everywhere, but it doesn't frustrate processes which operate in systems far from thermodynamic equilibrium.

144 posted on 11/14/2005 2:00:31 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
I would venture as far as saying that they are willing or unknowing agents of Satan, in that they are making Christians look dishonest or stupid or both.

That path has to be paved with teflon. I do not personally enjoy pointing this out. I wish educated Christians would stand up and point out this kind of dishonesty.

Answers in Genesis, a purely creationist site, lists the Second Law as an argument creationists should not use. Why aren't there any FReeper creationists with the integrity to stand against this nonsense.

145 posted on 11/14/2005 2:00:36 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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