Pentagon Firing Link To Able Danger

The Tampa Tribune ^ | November 10, 2005 | RICHARD LARDNER

[libstripper]

The Army Reserve officer who went public with details about a secret military unit called Able Danger is being fired from his post at the Defense Intelligence Agency, a move that also could end his military career.

Attorney Mark Zaid, representing Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer, was informed last week that the agency rejected an Oct. 19 appeal of its decision to revoke his client's top-secret security clearance

[libstripper]

The disgusting thing about the pubbies is that, whenever they get solid evidence of really serious crimes by DemonRats, like the murder of Vince Foster, they do their best to help the DemonRats cover their crimes. At the same time the DemonRats are doing their best to frame the pubbies for every non-crime thay can concoct.

[mcshot]

I'm all for as many gorings as necessary to take out those responsible for putting the lid on this. May the facts pop like a ripe puffball.

mc

[txhurl]

(really bad words)

[Cathy]

All of the CYA Clinton appointees in the Pentagon at work.

[theDentist]

Probably a call from a Dem on Defense or Appropriations warning that the military funding was on the line if this lid blew off.

[Cautor]

"If it was Top Secret and he leaked it then he should be dismissed"

If they could declassify TS stuff for the lousy 9/11 commission, including top level intelligence assessments given to the President, they could have declassified this stuff. In fact, the RAT infested (and I include the RINOs here) 9/11 commission should have made this part of their report. I find this whole affair amazing. Looks like the Republicans in Congress and the administration have a death wish, and Harry Reid et al. will be more than happy to grant it.

[avg_freeper]

question your assumptions

[sgtbono2002]

You just said what was wrong with the Pentagon, Most of the top Generals probably are the suck butts Bill Clinton moved up when he got rid of the real soldiers. they dont want their buddy- Bubba to have to face the truth.

[txhurl]

? elaborate?

[ConsentofGoverned]

"The disgusting thing about the pubbies is that, whenever they get solid evidence of really serious crimes by DemonRats, like the murder of Vince Foster, they do their best to help the DemonRats cover their crimes. At the same time the DemonRats are doing their best to frame the pubbies for every non-crime thay can concoct."
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Every 4 yrs I start to feel we have TWO political parties and that there is a REAL difference between the the two and then in 2 or 3 yrs after an election I cannot tell if there is any difference between any of them..time to go back to sleep and dream of a Republican party that NEVER WAS.

[truth_seeker]

"What, IN THE NAME OF GOD, is wrong with the Pentagon when Able Danger could rip the entire lid off the DemonRat party??"

If you understand the military, you'll realize their role is NOT to "rip the entire lid off the DemonRat party??"

The military leadership are historically non-political.

If you think otherwise, you are living in a fantasyland.

[gotribe]

Exactly. The DoD's role is to cover up its mistakes and wrongdoings just like any other bureaucracy.

[pointsal]

C'mon Washington....fess up.

[avg_freeper]

The assumption that either the Pentagon or the majority of Republican politicians want the following illuminated:

• obvious missteps by the Clinton regime that led to 9/11
• substantial evidence that Iraq was involved in global terrorism
• that the same had a weapons program
• and that there is evidence in Syria of that

needs to be questioned.

[Alia]

I hate to say it, but it looks like Able Danger is going to get swept right under the rug.

Ummm.. I think it is now going to get even MORE attention.

[Steel and Fire and Stone]

The retribution probably has some roots in the politicization of the military armed services under the eight years of Clinton. It was blatant, as my own experience may explain.

I was commissioned as a Navy Officer in 1980, and was active duty for about five years. As a Naval Reserve Officer for the next ten years, I was a senior officer (CDR/05) by 1994 (14 years, pretty quick, by Navy standards). I was selected to my second (reserve) Command about the time Clinton took office. Because my business took me across country from California to the East Coast, and because my unit was newly commissioned, and the entire program was ramping up, I spent about 4-5 months in Washington at my own expense, while my XO ("Executive Officer") managed the unit back in California.

During several "orientations" (some for newly appointed C.O.'s, and some related to my professional field), the "guest speaker" was a recent Clinton Administration political appointee (Deputy SECDEF, Deputy SECNAV, etc.). It was clear to me that a new game plan was afoot. The Clintonistas were blatantly politicizing the military. Future promotions, future "billets (jobs) of increasing responsibility", and the military career of mid-level and senior officers would depend upon signing on to the Clinton game plan (i.e. social, and otherwise, e.g. "rightsizing", acceptance of gays and women in combat units, promoting an "appropriate" world view to the troops).

To be honest, over 15 years I'd achieved all I ever wanted to achieve as a Navy Officer, there weren't a great number of billet's I aspired to, and everything from that point on would have taken me from shipboard or the field (SEABEE, Expeditionary units, etc.) where the "action" was. Jobs for a "senior" Navy Reserve officer in my specialty were pretty "worthless" from that point on, so I was probably heading out the door in any case.

However, after a half dozen political propaganda lectures, and when I saw officers known to be "left-of-center" politically being selected for Command and other opportunities of influence over clearly more experienced and qualified officers, I could tell which way the wind was blowing. It was a good time to leave, and I now had a good reason to bail out.

Bottom line: A lot of the guys who are now General and Flag officers in the U.S. Military were "political commissars" whose careers were advanced by leftist Democrats in the Clinton Administration (and in Congress). They ascended in rank, position, and experience because they played ball during 1993-2000. They're still on active duty, and in positions of significant influence and responsibility. The Clinton's had 8 years to recreate the Officer's corps in their own image. "Tailhook" was all about expunging "warrior" officers who wouldn't play ball, and making examples of them that their peers would clearly understand.

The U.S. Military is good, and do not doubt that I have a lot of respect for our guys - our warriors currently on active duty. But there are still a whole bunch of Pentagon queens in place out there; the military establishment in Washington is very probably, still a politicized animal. Our best officers today are the 01-04 (2nd LT to Major, or Ensign to LT CMDR for the Navy). The "kids" who came onto active duty in 1998-2005 are fighting this war, and doing a spectacular job.

SFS

[middie]

There is obviously more to the colonel's case than is being made public. Having spent almost 11 years in the DIA-DOD/Intelligence communities, I would advise that everyone ''stand-by'' with a wait-and-see attitude and not rush to judgment. The actual facts will eventually surface and be exposed.

[middie]

With a single glowing exception, your recitation of the Pentagon game played by upwardly mobile, ambitious young and mid-level officers. The sole exception is the comment on ''Left of center'' officers receiving better assignments because of what you perceived as their political orientation. While that may be your subjective evaluation, objectively, it is not a correct assessment.

[Alia]

You are exactly right; and giving good counsel.

[kabar]

What, IN THE NAME OF GOD, is wrong with the Pentagon when Able Danger could rip the entire lid off the DemonRat party??

According to Curt Weldon during his latest press conference, the revelations could impact both the Clinton and GWB administrations as well as the top levels of the Pentagon including the #2 at DIA.