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Maine town approves ordinance to ban chain restaurants
Boston.com ^ | November 8, 2005 | Boston.com via the Associate Press

Posted on 11/10/2005 6:41:15 AM PST by TheForceOfOne

OGUNQUIT, Maine --Voters in this seaside town on Tuesday became the latest community to ban so-called "formula" restaurants.

Supporters of the chain restaurant ban put the measure on the ballot because they didn't want their town to turn into just another congested strip of Dunkin' Donuts, Subways, Applebee's and Burger Kings.

The measure, which was approved 506-207, prohibits formula restaurants, defined as establishments with the same name, employee uniforms, color schemes, architectural design, signage, or similar standardized features as another restaurant regardless of location or ownership.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: zoning
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To: TheForceOfOne; SheLion

The less-government-regulation/control side of me is appalled by this.

OTOH, the what-goes-around-comes-around part of me is squealing with glee.

The chain restaurants have long been in bed with the big government nanny types. Case in point, smoking bans in bars and restaurants. The chains push for them knowing they can handle the initial resistance, but small town mom & pop places can't. Smoking bans are a means of the chains controlling/limiting their competition.

It's a shame this didn't happen before they got their way and got a smoking ban passed in Maine.


21 posted on 11/10/2005 7:06:24 AM PST by Gabz
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To: Ditter

Only if they ban mailorder shipments as well. Otherwise an underground economy of "blackmarket" chain merchandise would arise.

The bigger question is how close is the nearest outlet mall.


22 posted on 11/10/2005 7:06:29 AM PST by weegee (To understand the left is to rationalize how abortion can be a birthright.)
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To: TheForceOfOne
I consider this Socialism when government tells you what type of business you can create and how large it is allowed to grow with success frowned on as evil and bad.

Actually this is not socialism. This is fascism. Fascism is where the government maintains the fiction of private property, but burdens it with so many regulations that the government exercises effective ownership of it.

23 posted on 11/10/2005 7:07:08 AM PST by Centurion2000 ((Aubrey, Tx) --- America, we get the best government corporations can buy.)
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To: TheForceOfOne; MineralMan

If one of the local resturants decides that it has a winning business and wants to expand and franchise, will they have to close their original location?


24 posted on 11/10/2005 7:07:45 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: weegee

I agree, this is bad precedent.


25 posted on 11/10/2005 7:08:24 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: MineralMan
I too have eatin' in small one horse town cafes...Let me ask? A good ol' home town chicken fried stake with that sausage gravy, is it better at applebees??? I think not! I'd love some of the good cookin' I got down south at those little places up here in the north!!
26 posted on 11/10/2005 7:08:43 AM PST by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: TheForceOfOne

Ogunquit: Been there and kept driving.


27 posted on 11/10/2005 7:09:06 AM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: weegee

I do not think much of this either. But it is the will of teh people. They did vote on it, so I respect it.


28 posted on 11/10/2005 7:09:37 AM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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To: Phantom Lord
In order to succeed beyond acceptable profit levels by local government, I would imagine the business owner would have to leave town.
29 posted on 11/10/2005 7:10:03 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: TheForceOfOne
The measure, which was approved 506-207, prohibits formula restaurants, defined as establishments with the same name, employee uniforms, color schemes, architectural design, signage, or similar standardized features as another restaurant regardless of location or ownership

Lessee here ... you got four walls AND a roof to this restaurant? Ovens? Chairs AND tables? And you serve food on plates?

I remember a restaurant in Tallahassee that was a lot like this ... we're gonna have to shut you down.

30 posted on 11/10/2005 7:10:07 AM PST by bobhoskins (:))
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To: UB355
I'vd been in this town. I would imagine a ban on gays would not go over well.

The locals note that it you drop your wallet in Ogunquit, best to kick it to Saco before picking it up.

31 posted on 11/10/2005 7:11:03 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: sit-rep

"A good ol' home town chicken fried stake with that sausage gravy, is it better at applebees??? "




Probably not, especially since chicken-fried steak is not on the Applebee's menu.

However, I've been pretty sick after eating something like that in a small restaurant. Most are fine, of course, but I have no way of knowing what a particular restaurant is like.

It's a fine line, really.


32 posted on 11/10/2005 7:11:06 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Gabz

I've never understood the claim that smoking bans (on all bars and restaurants) reduces business.

I can see bars losing cigarette sales and maybe customers don't stay so long, but some may actually order another drink since they don't have the cigarette to fumble with. In a restautrant, there is nothing to be "gained" by having a smoker sit at a table for 20 minutes after a meal drinking free refills of coffee, etc. That station is not generating any additional revenue.

If all businesses have to comply, there is no difference in service. Do people really avoid seeing live music because they can't have a smoke? Do they really start cooking more at home? There are needs that are not met by having that cigarette.

None of this means that I support smoking bans (it should be up to the business owner) but I've never understood the argument.


33 posted on 11/10/2005 7:11:17 AM PST by weegee (To understand the left is to rationalize how abortion can be a birthright.)
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To: TheForceOfOne

I lived in a town that banned fast food restaurants. The Dog and Suds was allowed to be there because they prepared their food for each order. The restaurants were excellent. However, not being able to grab a quick burger was a pain.

Now that I think about it. We ate lot better and I cooked a lot more when we lived there. Dining out was expensive.


34 posted on 11/10/2005 7:12:03 AM PST by Samwise (The media is "stuck on stupid.")
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To: MineralMan
Usually when I travel, I go out of my way to patronize the local restaurants. Several times each year, I travel between Colorado and Indiana. I have a few stops. One place is a Thai restaurant in downtown Lawrence KS on Mass Ave near 7th and 8th St. In the Indianapolis area, I go to a brewpub and a Thai place in Broad Ripple, a Japanese sushi place in Carmel. No Applebees, no McDonald's (besides their food is cr*p), no Burger King, no Taco Hell. Part of my travel experience is if I can eat the item at home, then I won't eat there.

Haven eating in restaurants in small towns many times and regretting it the next day, I prefer dining in chain establishments when I'm travelling. It's a lot safer.
35 posted on 11/10/2005 7:15:14 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: armymarinemom

I've never been there, and I can understand people not wanting their town to look like Las Vegas with all the signs etc. but this is where zoning comes into play, keeping business and residential areas separate.


36 posted on 11/10/2005 7:15:19 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: TheForceOfOne

What happens if one of their local restaurants get successful? If the owner wants to open in a new location, the first thing he will have to do is close the original restaurant!

People seem to have this idea that chains arise when some guy in a blue suit in New York comes up with a marketing concept and gets financing for a thousand restaurants scattered around the nation.

But if you look at the history of a lot of these franchises (KFC, Don Pablo's, Carl's Jr., etc., etc.) the history was one restaurant that worked very well and the owner decides to open a few more and it grows from there.


37 posted on 11/10/2005 7:16:02 AM PST by Our man in washington
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To: MineralMan
It's a fine line, really.

Ya I know... I just tread a little lightly on subjects like this because there are not too many ways anymore to stay small if you will. If this little twon can do without the major labels, I say let them do it. It's almost like the Amish situation. They are making it with their hands heads and sweat... I think that is missed in our culture. I making sense?

38 posted on 11/10/2005 7:16:06 AM PST by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: sit-rep

forgot the Am...


39 posted on 11/10/2005 7:17:32 AM PST by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: Samwise
I always pack my lunch for work, once I discovered how much money I could save. I have a hard time feeling comfortable with fast food. I worked in a couple fast food places when I was younger and I know what goes on behind the counter. lol
40 posted on 11/10/2005 7:17:48 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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