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France will be America's future, if we don't stop denying that this invasion is deliberate and purposeful.

If you don't believe it, then read this: (Can't be posted)

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=1229979&C=america

1 posted on 11/09/2005 8:46:21 AM PST by Sabramerican
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http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=1229979&C=america


2 posted on 11/09/2005 8:47:27 AM PST by Sabramerican (Islam is to Peace as Rape is to Love)
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The fight in the US future will involve the Muzies and the Hispanics...


3 posted on 11/09/2005 8:47:46 AM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death.” - Al-Qaeda / Democratic Party)
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Learning? No, it's burning :-D


4 posted on 11/09/2005 8:48:27 AM PST by Wiz
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Let's peacefully and lovingly share our far better religious and cultural message with them.

LIBS: "How dare you! Don't you believe in the separation of Church and State? (except for lib pols in black churches, respect for muslims, forced atheism, etc...)"

6 posted on 11/09/2005 8:50:59 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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The article makes a simplistic and impossible suggestion: "Deport them".

How, precisely, does a nation deport its own citizens?

The article refers to "immigrants".
The rioting Beur are not immigrants. Their grandparents were immigrants. They are French, and they have no other nationality. Most of them speak and write only French.

They cannot be simply deported. Deported to WHERE?
Americans have a problem with violence in the black inner cities. The murder rates among blacks are so high as to constitute one of the top ten causes of death for young black American men. Surely America could reduce its crime by simply deporting the blacks. But how is that to be accomplished? How does a country just up and deport its own birth-right citizens? Whither does it deport them?

That same key on the piano has been pounded mercilessly for two weeks, but it's still flat. A country CAN'T deport it's own birth citizens. There is no law by which to do that, and no place to which to send them.

America is stuck with the urban blacks in the projects and cannot just "get rid of them" by putting them on a plane and dumping them somewhere in some foreign country. Because they're Americans, not immigrants. France is stuck with the banlieu beurs in the HLM and cannot just "get rid of them" by putting them on a plane and dumping them somewhere in some foreign country. Because they're French, not immigrants.

It's the same problem.
You can't deport your own birth citizens.
You have to integrate them, somehow.


8 posted on 11/09/2005 8:56:29 AM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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it must deport the troublemakers within its borders

Unfortunately, they are mostly 2nd and 3rd gen immigrants. IOW, they are Frenchmen!

9 posted on 11/09/2005 9:01:20 AM PST by expatpat
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I'd like to hear of examples from the history of Western Civilisation where the leaders and their subjects acted out of long range concerns.

The pathetic voters of California can't even pass the simplest, common sense ballot measures to put some minimal fixes in place.

With regard to the Islamic threat I feel like we are watching two trains heading for a collision and not able to do anything about it.

10 posted on 11/09/2005 9:02:25 AM PST by Revolting cat! ("in the end, nothing explains anything.")
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So the author is a complete idiot, isn't he, and we're oh so smart to point out that the Muzzies in Europe are ALL citizens of their respective countries? Don't think so. Some, I bet a very large percentage of them, are immigrants, another percentage are naturalized citizens and all of those could be and should be deported. (And won't be.)

Next, how do you "somehow integrate" second, third generation natives that don't want to be integrated?

12 posted on 11/09/2005 9:07:10 AM PST by Revolting cat! ("in the end, nothing explains anything.")
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It is time to recognize islam for what it is...a cult of terror, and not a religion. It must be decertified as a religion and dealt with as a criminal organization. Only then can we effectively deal with this menace to society.
14 posted on 11/09/2005 9:09:18 AM PST by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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France will be America's future, if we don't stop denying that this invasion is deliberate and purposeful. If we don't end the proliferation of radical Muslms...

I think we need someone to officially define a 'radical' muzlim...Apparently burning up my vehicle doesn't qualify one as a radical...Apparently you have to kill a Jew or Christian to qualify...

19 posted on 11/09/2005 9:27:51 AM PST by Iscool (Start your own revolution by voting for the candidates the media (and gov't) tells you cannot win.)
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The French elites have a lot in common with those here. Both really believe the concept of the nation-state, defined by common values, language, history, traditions, and yes, blood, is passe. They thought the immigrant hordes would work for them cheaply and docilely forever and that they themselves would be safe in their gated communities.


20 posted on 11/09/2005 9:38:15 AM PST by uscit
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The Muzzies are a'breeding and the French have aborted their future.. literally..


22 posted on 11/09/2005 9:58:26 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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In some cases, the mosques are connected to schools that teach separation from American values and hatred of Jews and Christians.

IMO, such 'religious' teachings should be outlawed as hate speech and any mosques and/or schools that they are promulgated in should be shut down permanently and perhaps razed.

26 posted on 11/09/2005 10:11:01 AM PST by Post Toasties
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But our president insists Islam is a religon of peace and mercy.


28 posted on 11/09/2005 10:19:29 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Welcome to the Community. Check your Rights at the door.)
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