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France reacts to 'shockwave of riots'(Paris/France burns Live Thread Night #12)
Times of London ^ | 11/07/05 | Simon Freeman, Charles Bremner

Posted on 11/07/2005 2:44:49 AM PST by Dane

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To: SauronOfMordor

"And, unfortunately, it may take steps that would make Rwanda look like a Chucky Cheese birthday party"

The rioters will get tired before that happens.

Also, there are many arrests being made each night. There is only a certain quotient of young angry men willing to torch cars. As they are arrested, the remaining willing groups will be reduced.


461 posted on 11/07/2005 4:07:37 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: proud_yank
"Can you get 00 in 3.5"

Here ya go.
462 posted on 11/07/2005 4:08:29 PM PST by Mazeman
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To: SauronOfMordor

"It's something very different when the rioting is being done by the "other", and the French can have no confidence that the rioting will stay within "civilized" boundaries"

The French already see that, thus far, things are kept within the boundaries of property destruction but without killing.


463 posted on 11/07/2005 4:09:15 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: omega4179
Here, let me fix that for you:

if just half the 15% turned on their comrades and took one out, they would lose 15% of their forces outright, half of that to casualties and half to desertion+joining enemy theoretically speaking. an army that loses 20% is no longer combat effective, in theory (the Marines proved that wrong in iwo jima but this is the french, no offense intended)

There. Better?

464 posted on 11/07/2005 4:10:06 PM PST by IonImplantGuru ("Me? You talking to me? You talkin' to me? Then [BLEEP]... Well, I'm the only one here.")
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To: mojito
"Outside the capital in Sevran, a junior high school was set ablaze, while in another Paris suburb, Vitry-sur-Seine, youths threw gasoline bombs at a hospital, police said."

Hospitals now. This does not sound good.

465 posted on 11/07/2005 4:12:00 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Vicomte13
thus far, things are kept within the boundaries of property destruction but without killing.

Wrong.

466 posted on 11/07/2005 4:14:44 PM PST by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: Chanticleer

"So just how socialist is France? You can't just start a business when and where you want? Are there no private companies?"

Define what you mean by "socialist", and I will answer.
One can always start businesses, assuming one has the means, and almost all companies are private. But as anywhere, to run a business you need space, which you have to buy or rent. You have to have the funds to pay the employees. You have to have some product or service that somebody wants to buy.


467 posted on 11/07/2005 4:15:18 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Leapfrog

One death, and he was beaten several days ago and died from the injuries. This is a tragedy.

Likewise, one person apparently intentionally burnt.

Ten thousand automobiles destroyed and much property damage in 12 nights of rampaging riots, and only one person dead and a handful seriously injured.

That is not due to luck.
It tells you that the rioters' general purpose is not to kill.


468 posted on 11/07/2005 4:17:30 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Ah, lol. Sides hurt.


469 posted on 11/07/2005 4:17:47 PM PST by Ray66
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To: Dane

These punks like gasoline so much, why don't we give them prodigious amounts of it from the air.


470 posted on 11/07/2005 4:18:24 PM PST by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: Vicomte13
That is not due to luck. It tells you that the rioters' general purpose is not to kill

Oh so probably billions of dollars worth of property damgage is ok then?

And what about the handicapped lady who was doused with gasoline and set on fire.

471 posted on 11/07/2005 4:20:44 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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Maybe things have finally quieted down tonight since it's the work week.


472 posted on 11/07/2005 4:21:36 PM PST by Mazeman
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To: 12B
"If we start shooting them, outside groups will start smuggling them weapons and then we're all screwed."

Well, if the "Frenchmen on the street" do not rise up and engage in one massive ethnic cleansing verging on genocide, the France and it's culture as we know it today will cease to exist. The government will not save the nation.

473 posted on 11/07/2005 4:23:25 PM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Vicomte13
So why would a business have to be a black-market business to employ the troubled youths?

I'm not trying to be argumentative. There's just something here I'm having trouble understanding. If they have such horrendous unemployment, why not educate and/or train the people to meet the employment needs of their area? Why not start businesses which can take advantage of the available labor?

474 posted on 11/07/2005 4:28:26 PM PST by Chanticleer (A free society is a place where it's safe to be unpopular. -- Adlai Stevenson)
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Freeper fact check:

One night=1,300 cars X $10,000/car=$13million.
475 posted on 11/07/2005 4:28:37 PM PST by Mazeman
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To: Vicomte13
It tells you that the rioters' general purpose is not to kill.

Ah.


476 posted on 11/07/2005 4:28:46 PM PST by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: mojito
Yet another suspiciously old looking youth...

French police apprehend a man in Vigneux, south of Paris, late November 7, 2005. France announced plans on Monday to impose curfews on rundown suburbs hit by violence to try to halt almost two weeks of unrest in which one man has been killed and thousands of cars have been torched. REUTERS/Franck Prevel

477 posted on 11/07/2005 4:29:18 PM PST by LikeLight
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To: Dane

Very entertaining!!!!!


478 posted on 11/07/2005 4:30:39 PM PST by Gator113
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To: Vicomte13
Here is the poor man beaten to death by Muslim thugs, and the disabled woman they set on fire. And we're supposed to believe this is just the "normal" French way of solving domestic political problems?


479 posted on 11/07/2005 4:36:20 PM PST by LikeLight
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To: Plutarch
Good evening.
"Freepers, what might be the best militia rifle compliant with California's Assault Weapons Ban?"

Any rifle caliber long gun, backed up by a 12 ga. pumpgun and a manstopper pistol in the hands of a practiced and motivated citizen.

The best gun is the one you have when you need one.

That said, we Californians must do our best to recapture the legislature so we can have ARs, FALs, and AKs like the rest of the country.

Michael Frazier
480 posted on 11/07/2005 4:36:54 PM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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