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To: ancient_geezer
Although one of the proposals is being touted as a Use or Consumption Based Tax, flat tax that is based on use, it is really not, it is truly a federal sales tax being disguised.

There, I fixed it.

29 posted on 11/05/2005 8:13:46 PM PST by Protagoras (To keep freedom, you must give it away)
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To: Protagoras

Although one of the proposals is being touted as a Use or Consumption Based Tax, flat tax that is based on use, it is really not, it is truly a federal sales tax being disguised.

There, I fixed it.

Lets see the "Flat Tax" which is a tax on employee's wages and coroporate profits is "truly a federal sales tax being disguised."

Yep you fixed it alright, for the "Flat Tax" is being touted as a federal sales tax being disguised.

A type of VAT, as a matter of fact, as the originators of the "Flat Tax" and others describe it.

 

The Flat Tax; Chapter 3, by Robert Hall and Alvin Rabushka

  • Here is the logic of our system, stripped to basics: We want to tax consumption. The public does one of two things with its income—spends it or invests it. We can measure consumption as income minus investment. A really simple tax would just have each firm pay tax on the total amount of income generated by the firm less that firm’s investment in plant and equipment. The value-added tax works just that way. But a value-added tax is unfair because it is not progressive. That’s why we break the tax in two. The firm pays tax on all the income generated at the firm except the income paid to its workers. The workers pay tax on what they earn, and the tax they pay is progressive.
  • To measure the total amount of income generated at a business, the best approach is to take the total receipts of the firm over the year and subtract the payments the firm has made to its workers and suppliers. This approach guarantees a comprehensive tax base. The successful value-added taxes in Europe work this way.
  • The other piece is the wage tax. Each family pays 19 percent of its wage, salary, and pension income over a family allowance (the allowance makes the system progressive). The base for the compensation tax is total wages, salaries, and retirement benefits less the total amount of family allowances.

 

 

FLAT TAX, VAT TAX, ANYTHING BUT THAT TAX; Duke Law Magazine, Spring 96:

 

Concerning Proposals for a Flat-Rate Consumption Tax
Before the Joint Economic Committee, Statement of Robert S. McIntyre
Director, Citizens for Tax Justice May 17, 1995


34 posted on 11/05/2005 9:44:09 PM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: Protagoras
"Fixed"??? Hardly since a flat tax has most of the failings of any income-based tax and in the (not so) long run will be right back to where we are today.
82 posted on 11/09/2005 9:22:58 AM PST by pigdog
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