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To: Palladin
This thread is a good idea. I would love to hear some comments from Americans in France, and from conservative French people (are there any?) as well.

Oh, they do exist, in greater numbers than you know. But why would they come here? Every thread about France features at least two pages of France-bashing. The jokes about retreating and waving white flags have been done ad nauseum. Who thinks it's funny anymore?
81 posted on 11/05/2005 10:56:11 AM PST by conservatrice
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To: conservatrice

I agree with you 100 percent. I get really tired of the French bashing here, which has little basis in history. The nonsense about cowardice ignores the millions of Frenchmen who took taxis, bicycles to get to the German front in World War One, the millions who died at that front, and the thousands of disfigured who lived out their lives in small isolated villages in southern France. It also ignores the crucial support the French gave us in our Revolution, without which we'd be bowing to Charles and Camilla. I've been to France numerous times on business and vacation and I've never encountered anything but pleasant, decent, helpful people EXCEPT in the areas that are now being beset by rioting.


154 posted on 11/05/2005 11:56:24 AM PST by laconic
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To: conservatrice

You're kidding right? Are you even familiar with french policy since the end of the Cold War? Don't even attempt to say that American joking about the french predolection towards surrender and appeasement is more offensive than the LONG TIME arrogance and snobbery of the french towards Americans. france has had this coming a LONG time. They're mostly arrogant obnoxious smug a-holes who live in the fantasy world that france is still a world power. Were it not for their U.N. Security council seat, france would have no more world importance than Luxembourg. If the french people are as nice and conservative as you claim, perhaps they should have thought twice before handing their government to a socialist leaning terrorist appeasist, anti-Semitic, anti-Christian, anti-American government who works with Americas enemies more than with America. Your post is VERY off the mark and it would be nice if you would recognize the fact that france is now paying for the things they've done in recent years and their total lack to stand up for liberty and democratic principles. If they'd of been a good little minor power and done what we'd suggested after 9-11, they wouldn't be going through this crap right now. The way I see it, the evidence is clear. We dropped the hammer after 9-11, no more domestic attacks in over four years. frenchie french did it there way, opposing us, turning their noses up at us, and now, who's streets, cars, and buildings are burning? NOT America's. That's for dang sure.


176 posted on 11/05/2005 12:16:23 PM PST by Allen H (Remember 9-11, God bless our military, Bush, & the USA! A sad ACLU, for a better America!!!)
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To: conservatrice
The jokes about retreating and waving white flags have been done ad nauseum. Who thinks it's funny anymore?

Ah... me for one.

509 posted on 11/05/2005 4:01:50 PM PST by An Old Marine (Freedom isn't Free)
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To: conservatrice

"The jokes about retreating and waving white flags have been done ad nauseum. Who thinks it's funny anymore?"

Good point. I've come to expect FReepers to be quite intelligent and hope they'll come to their senses about the french-bashing. In spite of their current government, we have had a couple hundred years of good relations. And, we can be pretty happy that Clinton didn't ruin it for the rest of us, even though he was President for 8 years.

I feel pretty bad for the innocent citizens of France.


827 posted on 11/05/2005 7:39:57 PM PST by DilJective (Proudly serving in the US Army - opinions are my own.)
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