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"Cop Killer" legislation advances in Congress
9News.com ^ | 11/4/05

Posted on 11/05/2005 5:49:17 AM PST by beaversmom

WASHINGTON (AP) - The House approved a measure Friday that would cut off foreign aid to countries that refuse to extradite anyone suspected of killing an American law-enforcement officer. The legislation is a direct result of the slaying a Denver Police detective earlier this year.

The provision was part of a 2006 foreign aid bill that passed 358 to 39. If the Senate approves, it will go to President Bush, who is expected to sign it.

Rep. Bob Beauprez, R-Colo., introduced the legislation after Denver police detective Donnie Young was shot and killed in May while working off-duty. The suspect, Raul Gomez-Garcia, fled to Mexico, where he was arrested.

Attempts by the U.S. government to extradite Gomez-Garcia for trial in Denver have been slowed by Mexico's refusal to turn him over if he could spend life in prison without parole.

However, Mexico appeared to warm to the idea of extradition after Denver District Attorney Mitch Morrisey decided to charge Gomez-Garcia with of second-degree murder and attempted first-degree murder, with a maximum sentence of 96 years in prison.

Mexico's undersecretary for North American affairs said in September the Mexican government wants Gomez-Garcia to "face justice appropriately in the United States."

"Bad guys should be behind bars," he said.

Gomez-Garcia is also accused of wounding Young's partner, John "Jack" Bishop, while they were working as security guards at a baptismal party.

In a statement on the House floor before the vote, Beauprez said the U.S. "should not be forced to plea-bargain with other countries, nor should full justice be denied family members of assassinated cops."

"We are not obliged to give foreign aid, and I believe the countries that receive our foreign aid should be held to certain standards -- in particular, living up to the extradition agreements our country has made with them," he said.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; banglist; caste; castesystem; copkiller; donutwatch; immigration; leo; libertarians
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To: soltice
I back the police, but we should NOT make them a special higher class of citizen.

I agree, but let's get that law in place and then expand it to cover ALL US citizens. To push a bill covering everyone wouldn't get far with the type of politicians we have now.

Small steps, small steps.

21 posted on 11/05/2005 7:53:59 AM PST by Oatka (Hyphenated-Americans have hyphenated-loyalties -- Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: Myrddin
You're letting a knee jerk reaction interfere with your understanding.

Their job is to apprehend individuals AFTER a criminal act has occurred.

That is how the police system was designed to protect us.

22 posted on 11/05/2005 7:55:47 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: soltice
Further answer to your substantially correct observation of:

The police are no longer tasked with "protecting" anybody but themselves, government property and other govt officials.

That's where another higher 'class' of offical comes into play. The Judiciary.

It isn't just a coincidence that as conservative thought and traditions were pushed out of the Judiciary the police became more and more corrupt, thus enabling just the situation you accurately described.

That's why the Alito fight is so important.

23 posted on 11/05/2005 8:01:57 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: Mariposaman

"Many of them already feel that they are above everyone else as the personal enforcement arm of the radical activist judiciary."

"What an foolish statement."

I agree... They ARE above everyone else as the personal enforcement arm of the radical activist.


24 posted on 11/05/2005 8:02:40 AM PST by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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To: Balding_Eagle

" That is how the police system was designed to protect us."

Well, thanks, but no thanks.


25 posted on 11/05/2005 8:07:37 AM PST by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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To: babygene
Well, thanks, but no thanks.

My history is weak on when the police force was first implemented, but I suspect that's something you'll may to take up with the Founding Fathers.

You weren't serious, were you? You really want Government sanctioned police running around with the power to throw people in jail BEFORE they commit a crime?

Am I on FR or DU????? And where, pray tell, are you from?

26 posted on 11/05/2005 8:12:34 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: beaversmom

The killing of this officer is the direct result of Denver's sanctuary policies and no control of our borders. Yep, that foreign aid refusal will really put a damper on crime committed by illegal alien invaders. Apostasy & appeasment are Our Friends... just ask Osama, Kofi, Vincente, Hugo, Fidel or Jimmy Carter.


27 posted on 11/05/2005 8:21:28 AM PST by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Policemen (not the man, but the position) are, in fact, a 'higher' class of citizen. They are appointed by the State to protect the rest of the citizenry.

Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone

28 posted on 11/05/2005 8:31:39 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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29 posted on 11/05/2005 8:34:46 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: freepatriot32

As I pointed out in #22, they are to protect us by tracking down and locking up criminals. They are to do that (by design) AFTER the crime has been committed. The rest of us are then protected from the criminal and his further actions because he is in a cage.

I should have made that clear in my original statement about the police.


30 posted on 11/05/2005 8:37:32 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: beaversmom
The Police are also the people. They are just People that have the trust of the citizens to enforce the laws that the people have enacted. The Police for the most part, are putting themselves in positions to deal with people and situations that the everyday citizen does not.

When it comes to getting a person out of Mexico when they have committed a capitol crime it is nearly impossible. Maybe this is a "baby steps" type of situation. Don't ask for everything at once. Try for a little and then later try for the rest. JMO
31 posted on 11/05/2005 9:08:47 AM PST by Dave278
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To: Balding_Eagle
Policemen (not the man, but the position) are, in fact, a 'higher' class of citizen. They are appointed by the State to protect the rest of the citizenry.

Not in the United States of America. You must be posting from somewhere else.

32 posted on 11/05/2005 9:20:14 AM PST by elkfersupper
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To: soltice

IMHO killing a cop is more than just killing a human being. It is the ultimate in attempting to kill the laws the police are attempting to uphold.

It is a statement that all the laws do not apply to the perpetrator. It is the ultimate flip-off to an entire civilization.


33 posted on 11/05/2005 9:23:26 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Let's tear down the observatory so we never get hit by a meteor again!)
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To: elkfersupper

I say you're wrong.

Let's hear your explaination on the position of police, judges, senators, and the President.


34 posted on 11/05/2005 10:18:22 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: elkfersupper

While you're at it, roll in a rational rebuttal of what Freedumb2003 asserted in #33.

Bet you can't.


35 posted on 11/05/2005 10:21:16 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: freedumb2003

Your point is moot, in this particular case. These officers were providing off-duty security at a private event. The perp had no idea he had just shot two LEOs.


36 posted on 11/05/2005 11:33:48 AM PST by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Let's hear your explaination on the position of police, judges, senators, and the President.

Public servants, all. Although it is increasingly becoming the other way around.

With the exception of police (and we shouldn't have any but FBI, County Sheriffs and their deputies) these should be true unpaid public service positions where people serve and then move on.

As for your other point, we have had laws against murder since the conception of laws. We don't need special laws for special people. It may not surprise you that I also disagree with "hate crime" (read "thought crime") legislation.

37 posted on 11/05/2005 12:05:57 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Treader

I think Bob Beauprez would disagree. I believe he is of the opinion that even thought they were of duty they qualify as LEO.


38 posted on 11/05/2005 12:10:07 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: Treader

Not so for Armando Garcia in Los Angeles.

These particular cops might be beneficiaries of this new policy, but we have to start somewhere. Let them be symbols and let us start flexing our muscles.

But your point is well-made. Thanks


39 posted on 11/05/2005 12:16:00 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Let's tear down the observatory so we never get hit by a meteor again!)
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To: Balding_Eagle; freedumb2003

I fully agree. Yet, the perp had no idea he was shooting LEOs. Similar civilian incidents have not warranted any great concern by Colorado lawmakers. The sanctuary policies, responsible for this and many other outrages- are still in effect.


40 posted on 11/05/2005 12:27:05 PM PST by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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