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K-12 Brainwashing
FrontPagemag.com ^ | 11-4-2005 | Ari Kaufman

Posted on 11/04/2005 8:03:42 AM PST by DeweyCA

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My best friend is an elementary school teacher in an L.A. suburb. He sees this type of stuff all the time. The kids are getting indoctrinated in liberalism, and since the kids and parents aren't even aware of it, they don't fight it.
1 posted on 11/04/2005 8:03:43 AM PST by DeweyCA
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To: DeweyCA

Hate America = Good

Love America = Bad


And we're paying good money for teachers to do this crap to our kids?

If you're in California I hope to hell you're voting yes on Prop 75 and Prop 74.


2 posted on 11/04/2005 8:08:12 AM PST by PeterFinn (The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
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To: DeweyCA

I am glad my kids are in private school (except the oldest whom is autistic and they are more concerned with keeping him in his seat than indoctrinating in the sp-ed classes.) I was an ed major for a year in college. I would look around the classrooms at my future peer group, and I couldn't bear the thought of working with them for the rest of my career. When I went in to the program, I wanted to change education and make a difference (HA!). I found that new thoughts were not welcome.


3 posted on 11/04/2005 8:09:59 AM PST by conservative cat
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To: DeweyCA

Solution?
Home School!


4 posted on 11/04/2005 8:10:48 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: DeweyCA

I tutor in LA. My sole purpose, I have come to believe, is to teach the kids about our wonderful US history -- the right way! We discuss propaganda, lenses through which textbooks are written. I have several history books available -- 'the Politically INcorrect US History' and etc. -- and I talk about our wonderful Founding Fathers, etc. It always comes up. "My teacher says that ... was a terrible President." "Some people hate America," I say -- "Let's look it up and see if we can find another way of looking at it."

I am stunned at what the kids say, but honored to be a Stealth Tutor. haha.


5 posted on 11/04/2005 8:11:03 AM PST by bboop (Facts are your friend.)
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To: DeweyCA

Leftism is worse than Islamofacism. And more dangerous to America.


6 posted on 11/04/2005 8:11:35 AM PST by samtheman
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To: DeweyCA
Related thread on liberals and LA schools
7 posted on 11/04/2005 8:14:35 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past; ohioWfan; Tribune7; Tolkien; GrandEagle; Right in Wisconsin; Dataman; ..
Did someone say...indoctrination in schools??

This thread may interest some of you.


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8 posted on 11/04/2005 8:14:50 AM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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Solution: sunlight as disinfectant.

Every public school classroom or auditorium where children are instructed should have an audio/video monitor that logs a transcript for parents and taxpayers to review every word that is uttered by these government employees.

We have as much right to see how our money is being used to educate our children as we do to see how accused criminals are being tried.

Public education should be on the public record.


9 posted on 11/04/2005 8:18:47 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: PeterFinn
Hate America = Good Love America = Bad And we're paying good money for teachers to do this crap to our kids? If you're in California I hope to hell you're voting yes on Prop 75 and Prop 74.

I voted yes down the line already in my absentee ballot.


10 posted on 11/04/2005 8:19:29 AM PST by starfish923 ( Socrates: It is never right to do wrong.)
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Most of the 8th grade American history classrooms held polls in which students got to vote on “who really discovered America?” I am not naive enough to believe that teacher influence played no role in the eventual results, which showed “Chief Howling Wind” easily defeating Columbus, 178 to 2.

Of course, if he thinks the correct answer is Columbus, he's an idiot. For one, he couldn't have been the first to "discover" America if there were natives living there already. By pure definition, the ancestors of the natives would be the ones who discovered the land. And Columbus wasn't even part of the first European discovery of America, as Erikson had done it years before.

Columbus did represent the first European discovery of America with historical significance on European and colonial history, however...

How you word the question is very important....
11 posted on 11/04/2005 8:19:43 AM PST by eraser2005
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Leftism is worse than Islamofacism. And more dangerous to America.

Yep.
See China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam and the still-present ravages of Balkan, East German, Baltic, Russian Europe.

12 posted on 11/04/2005 8:21:55 AM PST by starfish923 ( Socrates: It is never right to do wrong.)
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To: DeweyCA

We have our older grandkids in private school; we're working on getting the younger ones in as well.

For churches, especially, but for anyone who values a real education, building and developing more private alternatives to the public schools has to be priority one.

The public schools aren't going to change until they feel threatened, and they aren't going to change unless they are forced to compete. If you wait for that day your kids will be raised already and it will be too late to undo the damage.

We assume that because a kid seems articulate that he knows the things he ought to know; a conversation with a public-school kid talking in depth about any subject that matters may shock you.


13 posted on 11/04/2005 8:23:55 AM PST by marron
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To: bboop
I am stunned at what the kids say, but honored to be a Stealth Tutor. haha.

GOOD FOR YOU!
Way to go.
Stealth Tutor in LA should be your call sign. Far more powerful than bettyboops. :o)

14 posted on 11/04/2005 8:24:14 AM PST by starfish923 ( Socrates: It is never right to do wrong.)
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To: marron

They aren't going to change for another reason..

They're Union.


15 posted on 11/04/2005 8:28:48 AM PST by austinaero
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To: marron

homeschool++


16 posted on 11/04/2005 8:30:39 AM PST by Bhrian
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To: DeweyCA
If any parent doesn't know by now, he doesn't want to know.

The teachers pretend to teach. The children pretend to learn. And the parents pretend that the teachers are teaching and the children are learning. The system works.

We're homeschooling.

17 posted on 11/04/2005 8:31:36 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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"the Politically INcorrect US History"

Where can I get this book? surprisingly enough, I don't see it on Amazon ;-)
18 posted on 11/04/2005 8:33:25 AM PST by stompk
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To: samtheman
Oh, I know a lot about this. My mother, who is also Republican, teaches second grade, and she recently left the Teacher's Union organization (Or something along those lines) that she had belonged to because of how incredibly liberal it had become. Also, from personal experience, I know a great deal about it. I have had many extremely liberal teachers at my college, one of whom I'll be mentioning on my profile later on, who force their political beliefs on us, and rarely if ever present things from an opposing point of view, or if they do, they do so in an insulting manner. For instance, in my Epistemology class, the teacher was discussing Marxism with us. I brought up Ronald Reagan's famous quote, "Communists are those who read the works of Marx and Lenin. Anti- Communists are those who understand the works of Marx and Lenin." When I said that, my teacher said something like, "Ronald Reagan's said a lot of crazy things," and he and some other students spent the next couple minutes bringing up all these stupid things that they claim Reagan said during his presidency.
It's so sad that there is such a bias among an otherwise noble profession.
19 posted on 11/04/2005 8:35:13 AM PST by Chewie84
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The NEA (National Educators Association) biggest bunch of commie tyrants in the country. Just ask Ron Paige.

Public Education System has "systemic" problems. The only way to fix it...is to scrap it, and start over.


20 posted on 11/04/2005 8:36:14 AM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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